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Renes

Renes Report 11 Aug 2011 12:39

Choccy

Oh I see --- so they are diff indices -- which explains the diff

Can you find her in 1911 --- or Robert Mcleod

I secretly wondered if this was Diane

I know year wrong- name wrong - place wrong - but

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Aug 2011 12:45



has anyone looked on the 1911 census (Scotland) ?

assume they have ?


Cynthia

Cynthia Report 11 Aug 2011 13:28

Hi Choccy,

If you look at page 46, I have given a brief synopsis of what has/hasn't been done. The 1911 Scottish census is mentioned on page 41.


Diane gave the name Leslie as a name for one of her sons and it looks pretty certain that it had some special significance to her....but what?


I wondered about her being Diane too Renes.


I wonder if she may have been illegitimate, was brought up by the MacLeod's and given their name.


Thanks both - see....that Fan's ain't up yet......sheeeeesh.

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Aug 2011 13:45



sorry Cynthia - haven't looked at this thread before and haven't taken it all in yet and missed the reference to 1911 census - kinda gets you hooked doesn't it!

If she was sent to Aunt Kates and went to school in Stornaway, you would think she would be on the 1911 census somewhere. Unfortunately can't afford to trawl the census hoping her name will pop up!

Assume no-one really knows where she was born ...

Renes

Renes Report 11 Aug 2011 14:05

Cyns

I am prepared to fund the birth cert for Ida C C McLeod

coz ---

Robert McLeod was in Egypt when Ida was born

He was in the Seaforth Highlanders (Ross-Shire Buffs The Duke Of Albany's) - 72nd & 78th Foot --

·3 things Evelyn says on her opening post

1, Name of “Father• given --same --- except for one "C" being dropped --

2) Regiment same

3) And he lived in Stornoway

add to it

4) Robert McLeod has a sister Issabella M Leod

5) Born Egypt ----- changes to India --- but Oseas


perhaps Fans has already checked her out !!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Aug 2011 14:20

Over time since 1911 Scot came out it has been searched many many times and many viewed...Over 300 credits worth and nothing found at all including looking for Jean Annabelle 1888 of Tarbat...

Here is that birth from SP as it is on service returns there ..Being Scots of course..:P

1901 MCLEOD IDA COLINA CAMP F SERVICE RETURNS / 048/AF 0181

Anyone want to know what it says????????????????????? :-D

And here is the entry for her on 1911 Scot

1911 MACLEOD IDA C F 10 GARNGADHILL GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 002/00 007

Suppose you wanna know what that says as well????But I aint looked meself yet so yer will all have to wait... :-P

Renes

Renes Report 11 Aug 2011 14:22

Yes



must say this has distracted me for quite a few hours


Ta muchly

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 11 Aug 2011 14:27

lunch break but check this out please

http://www.gov.ns.ca/nsarm/virtual/halifax/archives.asp?ID=87

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 11 Aug 2011 14:32

Ida Colina Campbell Mcleod born on 12/02/1901 in Cairo

Father Kenneth Mcleod 1st battalion Seaforth Highlanders(Sergeant)

Mother Colina G Campbell ...


Renes

Renes Report 11 Aug 2011 14:37

Thanks Fans

was Kenneth related to Robert

and what happened to Robert


Oh Keeper of the McCleod sof Stornoway


Thats me back to the ................................

Bye

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 11 Aug 2011 17:22

While you lovely people have been beavering away on my behalf I have been at the hospital sitting with my O H whilst he had his chemo, if all goes well he will be allowed home tomorrow, so fingers crossed.They have installed Oxygen at home in case it is needed.
My turn for blood tests tomorrow, wont get the results until Tuesday,I feel
O K, need to be strong to deal with my nursing duties.
Thank you everyone for your interest and help
Big hugs to all of you
Evelyn XX

Quoy

Quoy Report 11 Aug 2011 18:47

could be something or nothing

The Standard (London, England), Thursday, April 24, 1884;

Borthwick Macleod
Apr 22nd St Stephens Parish Church Edinborough by the Rev Norman Macleod DD
Alex Hay Borthwick, Hopsrig,Langholm NB to
Elsie 4th daughter of Alex Macleod Leslie Aberdeenshire

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 11 Aug 2011 20:43

People have been really helpful today - thanks everyone.


Glad Fans made it back as she is the backbone of this search.


Yes Choccy, it certainly gets one hooked!


Evelyn, we are thinking of you and doing our best......take care. <3


Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Aug 2011 08:54

LK, I remember looking at that link before and yes, it's definitely part of the G-F family. Not sure where it leads though.


If anyone has a Scottish hunch and would like to check some records, I have a few Scotlands People credits left which I am willing to offer. Pm me for details. :-D

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Aug 2011 09:02

If I get some spare time today, I think I will wander amongst the G-F's to try and get a clearer picture of them and maybe establish a firmer link to Diane.

All ideas welcome. Gather round.


Maybe I should commandeer my dining room table for the task :-D


Then we can submit any findings to FBG ;-)

Sally

Sally Report 13 Aug 2011 15:41

hello
i finished readi ng through thread last night and do not have any searching skills

it struck me that grandmother could be amung the fenwicks as diane told so many fibs

( a ) she did not have a scotts acent

( b )she has not been found on any records in scotland

( c ) evelyn was named after her god mother

( d )she had a private income was it paid to diane mum may be a servat to keep her from spilling the beens (it did hapen) and the grangmother died it passed on to diane and the family kept an eye on her

( e ) the fathers name was made up to put everybody off the scent

i am sorry this this ia no help but it is just how i see it

sally w

wisechild

wisechild Report 13 Aug 2011 15:49

Like Sally. I haven´t had any input in this before, but without wishing to rush in where I know nothing, has anybody found a will for Evelyn Fenwick Goddard. If Diane´s income was coming from her, Diane might be named in the will.
Personally....& it´s just a feeling....I don´t think Diane was her real name.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 Aug 2011 16:56

Thanks for your input both of you. Welcome aboard!

It's quite a story isn't it ?

I too think the Fenwicks are involved somewhere but FBG isn't so sure. There has been a thought about Evelyn FG's Will and it's possible it may be sent for.

It's look pretty definite that Diane wasn't her real name....but what was.....? sigh....

I have been mapping out the Goddard/Fenwicks and they are a very nomadic bunch..........Canada, Jersey, London, Warwickshire, Devon....you name - they lived there! Just hoping to spot something which will give a glimmer of light........


We press on....... :-D

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 13 Aug 2011 17:24

Oh mother why couldnt you tell the truth.
Who the heck were you and WHAT was your real name??????
Thank you everyone for your help, I am very grateful to you

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 13 Aug 2011 23:27

And before she married a Goddard, Christophine Fenwick was in Sussex (1851) and Hampshire (1861). I too have have been wandering amongst the G F s! In 1881 there is Gwendolen with the rest of the family:

Name: Christophine Goddard
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Budleigh Salterton, Devon, England
Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Home Park Villas
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Wife Of Paymaster R N
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Stoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 1

Piece: 2211
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Christophine Goddard 37
Christophine F. Goddard 11
William H. Goddard 7
Evelyn G. Goddard 6
Emily F. Goddard 4
George D. Goddard 1
Gwendolen Goddard  
Ada Wheeler 19
Margaret Johnson 49
Jessie Smale 18
Mary Adams 14

In 1901 she is working as a probationer nurse at the Bradford Union workhouse ( she might have nursed my Great Grandmother who had a child there in Dec 1900 and died of TB there in 1902!):

1901 England Census about Gwendolen Frances Fenwick Goddard
Name: Gwendolen Frances Fenwick Goddard
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Officer
Gender: Female
Where born: Devenport, Devon, England
Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Horton All Saints
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Horton
ED, institution, or vessel: Bradford Union

Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 4170
Folio: 151
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Gwendolen Frances Fenwick Goddard 20

Think I've found her in 1911 but can't view full details so if someone with a sub could look ..............there's a mixed bunch of people there so maybe some sort of institution?

Ta


Household GODDARD, Gwendolen 1881 30  F Wandsworth London


Julie