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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Aug 2012 12:04

So glad that both of you posted that info as it has jogged my memory!


Fans sent for Rev. Donald and Mrs MacLeods deaths certs last year!! He died in 1930 and SHE died in 1935. Both at Roseneath, Dumbartonshire. So the Kate mentioned in the newspaper can't be the same Kate can it?


However, Donald and Kate's daughter went to live in the Penzance area and he was present at her death in 1923.

Fans then checked on a Captain Roderick Willoughby MacLeod (1858) who is on the 1911 census with his sister Ethel Bolitho (nee MacLeod).

I don't think we ever worked out if there was a connection with all these MacLeods though - but the area is interesting.

Also, some of the Goddard-Fenwicks lived in the Cornwall/Devon/Dorset area.


I'll ask Fans if she can remember any more.........she isn't looking after Mr Hurricane at the mo so may be able to pop in.

I will don my hard hat.........wish me luck........ ;-)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 8 Aug 2012 21:16

OK...I thought Aunt Kate was stated as being 101 when seen in that Obit by Diane ....Sorry Cyn...Not trawling back through thread now ,but may later....

All my searches and records are still on SP of course and I opened a LOT of poss deaths for Aunt Kate ????...

And a member in the right place to do searches Gratis did as well(Thank you to him also for lots of time spent searching BMD,S in his lunch hours to no avail )

Going back to SP to re-look at Aunt Kates death searches around the right time and right age at death(about 101?)...Prob /maybe get back Manyana... :-P

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 8 Aug 2012 21:30

Diane died in 1952 so it has to be before then that she saw the Obit..

No Year Surname
/Maiden Name Forename Mother's
Surname Other
Surnames S
e
x A
g
e District City/
County/
MR GROS
Data Image Extract
1 1952 LIDDLE CATHERINE JANE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0195
2 1948 MACAULAY CATHERINE MACLEOD F 92 LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0006
3 1941 MACGREGOR CATHERINE MACLEOD F 91 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0128
4 1945 MACKAY CATHERINE MACLEOD F 96 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0131
5 1940 MACKENZIE CATHERINE MACRITCHIE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0055
6 1941 MACKENZIE CATHERINE F 92 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0042
7 1952 MACKENZIE CATHERINE MACLEOD F 94 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0154
8 1941 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACGREGOR F 91 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0128
9 1945 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACKAY F 96 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0131
10 1948 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACAULAY F 92 LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0006
11 1951 MACLEOD CATHERINE F 95 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0069
12 1952 MACLEOD CATHERINE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0008
13 1952 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACKENZIE F 94 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0154
14 1951 MACPHAIL CATHERINE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0072
15 1940 MACRITCHIE CATHERINE MACKENZIE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0055

1 1948 MACIVER KATE F 92 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0121
2 1947 MURRAY ALICK KATE F 91 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0176

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Aug 2012 22:13

Yep.....I think you're right! 100 and summat it was. :-(

I've been trawling back and forth through these pages when I've had a chance. Will try again tomorrow sometime.


Thank you for visiting. Much appreciated. Please call back soon...... ;-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2012 08:22

http://www.dorsetforyou.com/dorsethistorycentre/microfilm

(the above has some newspapers, not sure what GR has with their British Library collection?)


No sighting of Wills for names listed on Ancestry Index, only a Catherine Stephen Maclean, 1947, (wife of Murdo Maclean, Lewis St. Stornoway) (sorry!).


44, Dafforne Road, 1955 occupants George DC Fenwick Goddard, Patricia EM Fenwick Goddard

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 8 AUGUST, 1939 THE BANKRUPTCY
GODDARD-FENWICK, George Digby. Crofton, Mount Roland,
Rustington, Sussex. SCHOOLMASTER. Court—BRIGHTON and LEWES (at
Brighton).

(above from google, probably why couldn't find a Will for him)

Chris :)

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 9 Aug 2012 09:36

Oh Diane where the heck did you come from, I have heard of storks and gooseberry bushes and am now beginning to believe in them.
Thank you so much everyone for your input, it is much appreciated.
Evelyn

Linda

Linda Report 9 Aug 2012 13:10

I did make a suggestion on page 78 on 21st July which no-one has commented on?

wisechild

wisechild Report 9 Aug 2012 13:40

Evelyn.
Beginning to suspect she was christened Minnie Mouse or something similar ;-) ;-)

Marion

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 9 Aug 2012 13:59

I am thinking far worse than that Marion.
Linda thank you for your input, I dont know how to do what you suggest, think I am a bit thick.

wisechild

wisechild Report 9 Aug 2012 14:14

I was being polite Evelyn. Very unlike me, but it´s a public site.
Think Linda´s idea is a good one except for the fact that no one has any idea exactly when Diane was meant to be in Stornoway, other than she was sent there when she was young.........so could be any time between 1906 & 1920, depending on your idea of young. Don´t think we know how long she lived there either do we?. Could have been anything from a few months to several years.
My grandmother was orphaned when she was 11 & always said she was sent to live with relatives of her mother in London & was badly treated there.
Turns out she went to live with her half brother & sister in law in her home town & was so unmanageable that after 18 months or so, they put her into a home for "difficult" girls.
Stories eh!!! :-D :-D :-D

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 9 Aug 2012 14:49

Judging by things that Diane told me I assume her to have been in Stornoway when she was 11 or 12 I dont know how long she was there or why she left there.
I never saw a photo of Diane when she was young, so have no idea what she looked like as a child. Happy hunting everyone, and bless you all for your interest
Evelyn XX.

wisechild

wisechild Report 9 Aug 2012 15:11

Call it refusal to be defeated Evelyn.
That would mean that she was there from about 1916 until about 1920, assuming that she left school at 14 or 15.Perhaps she was sent there for safety during WW1.
Maybe she never actually went to school there if she was 12 when she arrived. No idea what the legal school leaving age was in those days & being wartime, things could have been different.
She was at Springfield hospital in the early 20 (can´t remember the exact details off hand) Perhaps she worked as a nursing assistant in Stornoway, rather than being at school.Or if not a hospital as such, a convalescent home for wounded servicemen. Was there such an establishment in Stornoway.
Sorry if I´m letting my imagination run away with me. Just throwing out ideas.
If she had some experience of dealing with shell shocked patients, it would have stood her in good stead at Springfield.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2012 16:01

http://www.stornowayhistoricalsociety.org.uk/

(Oh look at above, we could have all gone!, lol)

Chris :)

Linda

Linda Report 9 Aug 2012 19:52

Just checking in Chris would it be worth sending an email to the above and asking if they have any suggestions to trace Diane?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Aug 2012 20:30

Hi Linda, sorry I missed your post on page 78 - it was slapbang in the middle of all the birthday congrats for our Evelyn. :-D

Church records can be very useful I agree and, as far as the MacLeods family is concerned, we've had quite a bit of contact with the present incumbent of the church in Tarbat. He was really helpful but, sadly, nothing of any use was found.


We've also been in touch with the Stornoway Historical Society several times and Willie Foulgar has done lots of searching for us......again.....zilch :-(

Everytime I see the weather map and the north of Scotland is mentioned or shown, my mind immediately goes to our search ..........

The main problem with our Diane is that we don't know what name she went under pre1927. Minnie Mouse really does fit the bill sometimes.


Keep the ideas coming folks......just one little break is all we need. :-D

Linda

Linda Report 9 Aug 2012 20:40

Hi Cynthia,

No problem just trying to think outside the box. I had to search old Church records once but they weren't at the Church were kept elsewhere also old school records (for Glasgow) are with the main library (in Glasgow)

As you say one day something will turn up totally unexpected :-D

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Aug 2012 20:44

Picking up on what wisechild said re schooling ...............



My mother was born in 1903 and my father in 1904.

BOTH left school at the age of 12, having completed the required number of days attendance. Mum left in 1915 and Dad in 1916.

Mum had passed an exam to go on to "grammar school" for another 2 years of education ......... but she was not allowed to take up that offer.

Her father was in the Army, and her mother had a new baby born in late 1915. So Mum had to go out to work to help support the family.



so it is possible that Diane did not go to school in Stornoway.


I never thought of that at any time when I have read the thread.





sylvia

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 9 Aug 2012 22:35

Mother always told me that she went to school in Stornoway but never said which school. Dont know if I dreampt it but I seem to remember her saying they used chalk and slate boards.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 9 Aug 2012 23:32

Catherine Stephen Maclean was born in 1875 and married in 1903 to Murdo..I know her death age is out but it is about the correct time as Aunt Kate ,going on Diane s say so on a newspaper article and Ev saying it has to be beetween 1945 and 1951 but prob late 40s as she thinks she was about 15/16 and interested in boys,not newspaper articles...:))
The Macleans have one child ,a son , on 1911 whos name I can not make out.

Catherine Stephen Maclean (Nee Pope) had a sister called Patricia Pope born 1882 Stornoway same as herself and I can not find Patricia after 1901...Marriage/death/passenger or on 1911 Scotland ,England or Wales...

Where did she go ???

Well yer gotta follow up a name like Patricia havent yer just???

More wild goose chasing:)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 9 Aug 2012 23:57

So I have to go to Dorchester to trawl the papers then I guess or be driven even more round the bend with this.???
Havent been to Dorchester since my Paternal Grandparents lived near there when I was a teenager and we went food shopping ... :-D

Next time I go to Somerset I shall try to get there...Its only a looooooong day trip from Glastonbury area and a horrid road if I remember correctly. :-P

Night all~~~