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Evelyn

Evelyn Report 20 Nov 2012 11:17

Gosh there is almost a book here isn,t there, just wonder what kind of ending we are going to find. It has always been a puzzle to me , why did Diane NEVER mention her mother?
I am going to venture out today to do some food shopping, must remember to take lots of tissues.
Love to all
Evelyn X

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 21 Nov 2012 07:53

I guess there must have been something that your mother wasn't happy about mentioning Evelyn - especially if she was a 'reserved' lady.


Book? Hmmm ........ not quite a 'whodunnit' - more of a 'whoisit' :-D



Must get her ladyship back to check the details found the other day. She will have the usual excuse of being busy etc.etc. yawn.........


Evelyn? Please take the tissues with you - we can't have you sniffing and dripping all over the place.......sheeeeesh. ;-)

wisechild

wisechild Report 21 Nov 2012 08:20

Cynthia.
As it´s her father we´re trying to find, I would think whodunnit would be quite appropriate.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 21 Nov 2012 13:51

Maybe...........


......... who did what, where and when???? ;-)

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 21 Nov 2012 19:39

I recollect this has been posted before on the thread but lost in time somewhere:

http://www.gov.ns.ca/nsarm/virtual/halifax/archives.asp?ID=87&Page=87&Nav=true

The wedding of Evelyn GF's brother William Henry Willoughby Goddard Fenwick.
( think it was his second marriage & first wife died 1910).

The Canada marriage record is on Ancestry but I don't have worldwide access to get all the details.

Wonder if one of the ladies present is Evelyn GF? She would be about 37 ish.

Julie

Choccy

Choccy Report 21 Nov 2012 20:18



Nova Scotia, Canada, Marriages, 1763-1935

Name: William H. W. Goodard (Clerk in Holy Orders, C of E) (Widower)
Gender: Male (age 39)
Spouse Name: Ella M. Major (Spinster)
Spouse Gender: Female (age 25)
Marriage Date: 1912
Marriage Place: Halifax, Halifax
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Book: 1821
Registration Page: 155
Registration number: 481


Groom born Jersey, GB
Residence at time of marriage - New Waterford, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
Groom's father and mother - George S & Christophine
Groom's father's occupation - Fleet Paymaster R.N.


Witnesses - Gerald Bullock, Kathleen Major and Rev. G M. Ambrose


Cynthia

Cynthia Report 21 Nov 2012 20:51

I remember that from a good while back Jooleh. I may post it as a link to my FB contact and see if he can tell me. Thanks for the reminder.


:-D :-D

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Nov 2012 23:08

Push Orf Baggage with your withering remarks... :-P

I have not found anything positive yet but I think you lot are doing really well..

If only we could find the daughter of Catherine and Kenneth Macleod....Catherine Mary Macleod.....

I am going to stock up on credit and search the 1911 on Scots people as soon as I can .But as Cyn says I have had a rather lot on this last little while....
I must make time
I must make time
and another 100 lines should make me do so..
We also have someone behind the scenes on here who is doing their best to search stuff in Scotland for the child as well so good luck there nice lady... :-)

Vicci

Vicci Report 22 Nov 2012 22:19

MACLEOD, KENNETH (Census 1911 088/00 006/00 009) fisherman age 32
married 8 years

lewis street

wife Kate
children
Angus 7
Bella (M?? can't read initial) 5
Kenneth 4
Katie M 1

if this is the right family
then Catherine Mary birth one of these

1909 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0263
4 1910 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0046
5 1910 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0239
6 1911 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0093

Woody's

Woody's Report 23 Nov 2012 02:08

Well done finding them in the census, Vicci.
I've had a look at the "likely suspects" and also checked a couple of Katie Mary births but alas none are children of Kenneth and Catherine.
I hope to get to Gros soon and will check all the Mac/McLeod births on Lewis in that time frame.
I did find Bella's birth though - she was Isabella Margaret and born at 8 New Street, Stornoway on 26th or 27th July 1906.
The informant was Grandfather Angus MacLeod from Vatisker!

Woody's

Woody's Report 23 Nov 2012 03:06

The other night I watched a programme on BBC Alba about the descendants of families from Lewis and Harris who had emigrated to Canada and the hardships they found there.
Life wasn't all good and some returned home to the Hebrides.
There was one woman who was born in Canada but then her mother died. For 8 years she was brought up in Canada by either her father's relatives or her mother's - I'm insure which as I missed the start of the programme.
At the age of eight she was taken back to Lewis and brought up by an aged aunt and uncle on their croft.
Her name was changed - no-one seems to know why - and she was known by her "new" name from then on.
She went on to marry the boy next door who also happened to be the first child she saw in Lewis.
She was born in the 1920's but it does have similarities to Diane's story!

Name changing in the islands happens all the time, usually because of the death of a family member so the name can be continued.
My great great grandfather was a Kenneth Campbell who died in August 1863. In June 1863 his eldest daughter had an illegitimate son called Robert and then changed his name to Kenneth following her father's death! At least they had the decency to do the thing properly and record the change on the certificate!
Also common is the practice of giving two siblings the same name. The daughter referred to in the paragraph above was called Marion and born in 1831, but in 1847 another daughter was also called Marion, coincidentally her grandmother (also Marion) died in 1847.

Anyway, none of that helps to find Diane's parents but if Catherine MacLeod is the Aunt Kate referred to, is Diane descended from Catherine's ancestors or her husband's ancestors?

I saw the patronym A Phrois mentioned. Phrois is the Gaelic for pride.

Woody's

Woody's Report 23 Nov 2012 03:38

Vicci posted the 1901 census for Kenneth MacLeod at 14 Aird Tong. On it there was a brother called Alex aged 7.
Pretty sure this is him.
http://facesmemorial.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/aird-tong.html

wisechild

wisechild Report 23 Nov 2012 07:27

That story sounds uncannily familiar (The names have been changed to protect the innocent, as they say).
Certainly gives food for thought & could explain why there´s no obvious birth registration if Diane was registered under another name.
It will be like looking for a needle in a haystack if that´s the case. :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Nov 2012 07:49

That sounds an interesting programme, this 'Thread' gets more informative all the time...

How many more Macleods can there be, lol, don't answer that!!.

Chris :)

wisechild

wisechild Report 23 Nov 2012 08:25

I would suspect that "Diane´s" mother died when she was born, or shortly after. That may explain why she never spoke of her & why there are no apparent siblings..
Wonder if Robert re married & that was the reason she was sent to her relatives?.

Vicci

Vicci Report 24 Nov 2012 10:22

woody's which catherine mary births did you check?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 25 Nov 2012 08:20

Apologies folks......I've been side tracked on another thread which is dear to my heart.


That story is really interesting Woody's. Also, it reminds me that our Evelyn's Godmother, Evelyn G-F, had Canadian connections.


My contact on FB seems to have been a generation out in his thinking. He was giving me information on another Evelyn within his family in error. I have pointed out that I was, actually, asking about the Evelyn who had been born c1873 and whom he would not have met because she died before he was born. I am still waiting for his response to that....hopefully, he is re-asking his family members - one can but live in hope :-D


Off to look at that link now.


Continuing thanks for your efforts.........you're a good bunch. <3

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 25 Nov 2012 08:22

By the way Jooleh, I sent my FB contact that link re the wedding in Canada and he was so pleased. He hadn't seen it before! Considering it was such an interesting family, I'm quite surprised that someone within their ranks hasn't put their tree together. Another job for Fans maybe........ ;-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 25 Nov 2012 08:39

(sends Cynthia tin helmet at the ready!!, lol)

Chris :)

wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Nov 2012 13:11

No obvious connections here apart from the surname, but with Evelyn´s mum, anything is possible.
Robert Macleod marr Constance Alice Harrison 1st quarter 1908 St George Hanover Square. (can´t find it on London marriages on Ancestry.....probably mistranscribed)
Helen Kathleen Macleod marr Geoffrey Bright Morris 9.1.1909 St Cuthbert Kensington.
Fathers
Robert I.M Macleod Royal Navy
William Morris artist
Witnesses Charles & Frederica Maundrell.
Address Philbeach Gardens.
Looking at the census Helen was an actress prior to her marriage & I seem to recall way back in the mists of time, there was a Helen Macleod returning from India on the passenger lists.
Was Geoffreys´father THE William Morris? :-S :-S :-S