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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 17 Apr 2013 13:15

Still got most of yer marbles indeed!! What, all ONE of 'em????


Don't go mollycoddling her Chris.......she is such a stubborn old bat at times I can tell you!!! ;-)


Ooops.....I thought 91 sounded a bit young.....sorry bout that :-(


Glad the old bat remembered about Bill Lawson.....saves me trawling through the pages again.... :-D


Anything is possible with this story so please, keep up the good work. I'm not sure if the possibility of Diane's 1st Christian name being Leslie was thought about.......can you take it any further Vanessa?

Back later.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Apr 2013 13:32

Baggage??? :-P :-P :-P :-P :-P

Chris Ho :)
Thank you for that...I shall take it as easy as Baggage,grandson aged 5 Mr Hurricane(now returned)8 dogs and an annoying but loved HID allows.

Keep telling him that if we were married I would divorce him.!

Have employed a cleaner now...Poor woman has her work cut out once a week restoring the place to some sort of order..:D

You are all doing sterling work and I and Ev can not thank you all enough....

Fans

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 17 Apr 2013 14:11

Hi Cynthia (& everyone)
I have followed this thread from the start, but I am not a seasoned researcher like your good selves! I have been going through from the start trying to pick up any pertinent info, but an hour or more in and I'm not a quarter of the way through!

It just strikes me as rather co-incidental that we have links between Leslie & Fenwicks - is it more than just coincidence that Evelyn Goddard Fenwick is godmother to Diane's daughter 'our Ev'?

I was trying to find the info where some research was carried out in EGF, but haven't happened upon it this evening and its time for me bed :-S

I think that somewhere in this thread is the answer, but what that is remains as mysterious as Diane herself!

Vanessa

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 17 Apr 2013 14:16

Fans/Cyn,

Probably a silly question but have you, or anyone else for that matter, looked at the 1900 and 1911 Scottish census records or indeed earlier census records for Stornoway to try to find someone who may have been "Aunt Kate"?.

If the report of Aunt Kate's demise at the age of c104 in the late 1940's or as late as 1952 is indeed true then she would have been born between say 1842 and 1848. Kate of course might not have been her given name but a diminutive of Catherine, Cathrine, Catherina, Katherine, Kathrine, Kaitlyn, Katelin or even just a family pet name which wouldn't exactly help much.

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Apr 2013 14:29

looking at births Leslie / London/1907+/- 1 year then looking in 1911
not finding this one only in bith index at the moment

Name:Dorothy Isabel Leslie
Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1907
Registration district:St Marylebone
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:520

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Apr 2013 14:36

Indeed I have searched every bliddy census avaliable for MANY hoursJonesey as have others and also the 1911 of Scotland at no small cost to Ev....
BMDs are all searched out on SP and India as well and I think most of the rest of the world.!
I give in entirely as I DO wish to keep the ONE marble that Baggage mentioned...

:-(

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 17 Apr 2013 19:22

I suppose this has been looked at from the National Archives online


Medal card of MacLeod, Robert. Corps: Seaforth Highlanders. Rank: Second Lieutenant....

War Office: Service Medal and Award Rolls Index, First World War. Medal card of MacLeod, Robert. Corps Regiment No Rank Seaforth Highlanders Second Lieutenant. General List Captain.

Collection:Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodiesDate range: 01 January 1914 - 31 December 1920 Reference:WO 372/13/47182Subjects:Medals, Armed Forces (General), Army, Operations, battles and campaigns, Conflict.


And this has been searched.......

http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/Home.aspx

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 17 Apr 2013 20:05


interesting.....

1935 Stornaway Gazette


25/1/35

WEDDING

On 3rd January, we had a very pretty and interesting Wedding in North Tolsta, when Miss Ishbel MacLeod,

53 Hill Street, became the bride of Mr. Murdo MacIver, New Street. Rev. Mr. Gillies, Stornoway, officiated. All Weddings are interesting, but this one more so, because the bride broke "new ground" by driving to and getting married in Church, a welcome innovation from the usual custom of getting married in the house, or going to Stornoway. Not only special friends, but the whole F. P. congregation had a good view of the bride, who looked really charming in her white dress and bridal veil. The bridal party had a great reception on their way from church and if the number of congratulatory telegrams and costly presents received are any indication of the newly-weds' popularity then they must be popular indeed. They received very many of both and they start their married life with the hearty congratulations and sincere good wishes of the whole community.

http://www.tolsta.info/index.php/timeline/23-1930/75-district-news-1935


Cynthia

Cynthia Report 17 Apr 2013 20:21

Hi Susan,

I've just looked back at one set of references we have to Robert MacLeod and both the war medals card and the India family link have been looked at. Pages 2-4 of this thread.


Thank you for the link to the Tolsta Historical Society - I remember looking at that last year and it was interesting reading.


I would love to find what the link was between Diane and Evelyn G-F - friend? Music teacher? Landlady? Relative......??


Also, I think I need to put this thread into some sort of order so that people don't waste their precious time going over things which have already been looked at. Just need a bit of time really.


I am not a seasoned researcher at all......I am merely a gopher so would be really relieved if those of you who are good at research would be prepared to follow up on links.

I can do the bits and pieces.......and try to keep this thread steady...


:-D :-D :-D :-D

Traciey

Traciey Report 17 Apr 2013 20:34

Sorry for adding to the muddle on here but I can't remember if I ever asked about this one, if you click on the image her name is D McLeod, I know its spelt differently and the age is out but...... Given we don't really know that much about Diane before her marriage and she did tell a fib or two, can we could rule this one out? I saved this one back in Jan.


Name:
D M Leod

Age in 1911:
13

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1898

Relation to Head:
Niece

Gender:
Female

Birth Place:
Stornoway Isle of Lewes

Civil parish:
Holy Trinity and St Mary

County/Island:
Yorkshire-East Riding

Country:
England

Street Address:
2 Madeley St Hessle Rd Hull

Occupation:
School

Registration district:
Hull

Registration District Number:
522

Sub-registration district:
Myton

ED, institution, or vessel:
19

Piece:
28788

Household Members:


Name

Age

John W Deyes 43
Mary Deyes 47
J H Deyes 19
C Deyes 18
D M Leod 13

EDIT* NOW RULED OUT, NO CONNECTION FOUND

Traciey

Traciey Report 18 Apr 2013 08:03

I hate all the coincidences I come across, my wee heart skips a beat. I'm off to work now but I started looking at the above that I posted and from what I can see the lady Mary Deyes maiden name is Robertson, someone earlier posted about a Leslie family with a servant Bessie Robertson. I'll have a look more later tonight but if anyone can rule this one out please feel free to look at it more in depth than I can.

jansmith

jansmith Report 18 Apr 2013 13:03

looking at 1911 image it could be D McLeod

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 18 Apr 2013 13:17

Is it likely to be Diane as it would give a birth ca 1898? Now we are of the impression that Diane was economical with the truth, but she didnt get married until 1929, which would be on the older side for a first marriage. Also, what age would that make her on the birth of her children?

Or do you think this is another McLeod family member?

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 18 Apr 2013 13:36

Can anyone view this record & the full census

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X947-FB7

Can't seem to copy the image on my iPad, but it is a female D Leslie, age 1 on the 1901 census.

Another 1 to at least rule out??

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 18 Apr 2013 13:45

Vanessa,

Here is that 1901 census:

Name: D Leslie
Age: 1 3 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Baby (Infant)
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary, Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 30a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Piece: 8
Folio: 95
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Mirian Hemmett 56
Maud Shannon 9
I F Mallison 34
L Lilley 28
M Leslie 24 Boarder, Widow, Born Woolwich
E Jones 18
D Leslie 1 3 Months

Most likely corresponding birth registration:

Births Mar 1900
LESLIE Doris Isabella W. Ham 4a 455

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 18 Apr 2013 13:57

Thanks Jonesey, dutifully ruled out :-)

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 18 Apr 2013 14:00

In an attempt to leave no stone unturned, this article is rather interesting!!

http://www.top-biography.com/9241-Mata%20Hari

Not a Robert, but "daughter stays with father" and looks to have been born in
Indonesia! Mother from a wealthy family (private allowance??).

All speculation of course, but interesting non the less!

Edit: Another source has the husband/father as Rudolph (John) MacLeod

wisechild

wisechild Report 18 Apr 2013 14:08

Beginning to suspect that the link to Stornoway may be a red herring. Aunt Kate may have married a Macloud. Who knows what her maiden name was. She could well have been Diane´s Mother´s sister & no blood relative to Robert Macleod. It´s a very common name in the area. Or she could even have been a great aunt.
The fact that M Leslie in the 1901 census was born Woolwich could be significant, with the military connections.

Renes

Renes Report 18 Apr 2013 17:25

Nudging to keep on page 1

Traciey

Traciey Report 18 Apr 2013 18:38

Yes jansmith yes I agree its def D McLeod she just needs to be ruled out now, I'm 99% its not her but it has been mentioned several times on this thread lets not leave any stone unturned, the searching that you all have done on this case is amazing and the support you have given Evelyn is heart warming, everyone we rule out helps us on the way of finding Diane. Vanessa I would say anything is possible, its only 8 years of a difference. All the normal avenues have been explored so as crazy as it sounds thinking outside the box is definitely the way to go.