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Was someone living in St George's Road - seems to ring a bell but can't find it!

St George's Rd...? Hmmm....can't say I remember that one Ann, but am happy to be corrected.


Absolutely anything is possible with this woman. Evelyn maintains that her mother was very well educated.....but where????


I would willing go back to my contact at the Nicholson Institute.....if we knew what her real name was.............arrrggghhh....... :(


Just going to look at the link Vanessa provided.

Thanks all. x

Good heaven's - it's all about Mata Hari

Who married a Rudolph MacLeod.......in Amsterdam.


Rudolph's mother's name was..


Dianna. (Sweerts de Landa.)


I've googled for more info... :-0

Perhaps I was thinking about something else, then, with St Georges Road.

Have my eye on a Leslie but need to look at his officers file at Kew - sometime next week. Scottish regiment, wealthy, bit of a "cad" - well actually quite a lot of a cad! Not Robert though and no Scottish family connection as far as I can tell, yet.

Cynthia

As Traceiy said, anything is possible!!

Cant remember what I put into Google to get the Mata Hari link, but it seemed to bear some resemblance to what Evelyn has told us:
Diane never mentioned her mother
Came back to the UK with her father
Had a private allowance (wealthy family?)
Etc, etc so just had to post it!

I never got as far as Rudolphs mothers name...............hmmmm :-0

It seems the daughter of Rudolph & Mata Hari passed away at a young age, so again all lots of very interesting co-incidencs :-D

They moved to Malang on the East side of the island of Java and had two children, Norman-John MacLeod (30 January 1897 – 27 June 1899) and Louise Jeanne MacLeod (2 May 1898 – 10 August 1919).

Another, rather tenuous link I must say (haha), one ruled out.

Ahhhhhh.........but who's to know if she had another child and kept it quiet?

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I really must try and curb my imagination at times...... :-D

Sorry - probably not helpful - but does it strike anyone else as odd that someone's mother was called Dianne and Margarethe's surname was Zelle.

Perhaps I have been doing too many cryptic style crosswords and looking for clues in my ancestors lives but if you change the letters round in Zelle you can get a similar sound to Leslie - LEZLE

Oh dear, what have I started..? :-S

A new think tank Vanessa?? ;-)

Its funny what all our brains come up with, but that's what we need. I'm slowly ruling that one out that I posted, D M Leod(image reads McLeod) living with her aunt, found her in 1901 in Stornoway with her mother Christina McLeod(Robertson) and the D stands for Donildina and I think she was sent to Hull to live with her aunt after her mothers death, just got a few more things to do before I totally rule her out. Is it best to delete all the posts not related once I've ruled her out?

I know I've posted about a McLeod but to be honest here in Scotland it interchanges over the years, some families use MacLeod and some McLeod. Diane spelt it MacLeod but its not to say further back the family might of been McLeod. A friend of mine is MacPherson and it turns out his grandfather used McPherson, they are actually from Stornoway too.

EDIT* RULED OUT, NO CONNECTION FOUND

I wonder if there would be any medical records for Diane anywhere in storage and if they would have any" clues"?

I suppose it would shorten the thread if we all deleted our non-relevant replies Traciey, but it may be best for me to do a catch up first......to save people going over the same stuff. I've started - but only got to page 10.....and am x-eyed!!



Jan, would they still be available after all this time though? I'll have a word with Evelyn and see if she can remember the names of any surgeries from back then.


JannieAnnie? - I'm so pleased to see that someone else's brain works like mine............. ;-)

Cynthia

If people have secrets - they often do what they feel necessary to keep them - no matter what - but somewhere in the secret-keeping there is often an element of truth! The fact remains that Evelyn's mother was born - there must be a record, or some sort, somewhere.

J-A

I used to work in the dept in the NHS that looked after all the transfer of records between GP's and I'm almost sure records foe deceased patients were only kept for a limited time. Also given that Diane passed away 50+ years ago its unlikely that records still exist, but I have someone I can ask. Will let you know in the next day or 2.

Good luck Cynthia I did that a few weeks ago and re read the full thread and it makes you question everything all over again ;-)

is this another "red herring" just trying to connect surnames :-)

Marriages Jun 1919
Goddard James R Macleod Paddington 1a 212
MacLeod Jean Goddard Paddington
Donald and Kate who we have looked at in 1901 have a daughter Jean but with the middle initial A

I love the theory about Mata Hari.........but I think someone would have mentioned before now if Diane was mixed race. Her family could hardly miss the fact.

Jan, that marriage rings a bell but I would have to go through the thread to find it. I've started with what we have looked at re Robert MacLeod.......- 'tis enough to give me an 'eadache!! ;-)


Wisechild, Mata Hari was Dutch and Rudolph was of Scottish origin - so her skin colour would have been light but, wouldn't it just be the icing on the cake if there was a connection. :-D :-D :-D :-D

Dear Evelyn and All,

In the last few days I have read all these pages twice.
As much as I would like to, I can't help much as my Scottish knowledge of researching is nil!
Diane may have covered up who she was, or she simply may not have known her mother and not been registered, especially if she died when Diane was born, where ever that might have been.

As Diane was still young when WW1 broke out, she would have still needed a home if her father went to war. If she never saw him again she would be relying on someone to give her information about him.

My question is, the 3 Robert's from the WW1 deaths, page 2 I think, although they are not the right unit, could one of them be him?
If we can rule them out then I have nothing to offer in the way of help, but if they are then still possibles, and if anyone thinks it might help Evelyn's search I will order them.

I will leave it a few days to see what others think in case there is a better lead to spend some money on.

My friends Nan thought she was put in a home aged 3, but she is at home in 1911 aged 6, so young memories do get muddled over time.

This one from 1881 would be the first one I order.
MACLEOD, Alexander, Head, Married, M,49,1832
Farmer (Of 27 Acres Of Which 14 Arable) Kincardine G, Rossshire
MACLEOD, Alexandrina, Wife, Married, F,34, 1847
Farmer's Wife, Lochbroom G, Rossshire
MACLEOD, Murdo, Son, Unmarried,M, 17 1864, Farmers Son,Kincardine G, Rossshire
MACLEOD, Donald, Son,Unmarried,M,15,1866, Farmers Son,
Kincardine G, Rossshire
MACLEOD, Alexander, Son, Unmarried, M, 9,1872, Scholar
Kincardine G, Rossshire
MACLEOD, Robert, Son, Unmarried, M, 7, 1874, Scholar
Kincardine G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Colin, Son, Unmarried, M, 4,1877, Scholar
Kincardine G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Mary, Daughter, Unmarried, F,13,1868, Farmer's Daughter
Kincardine G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Jessie, Daughter, Unmarried, F, 11,1870, Scholar
Kincardine G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Maggie, Daughter, Unmarried, F, 2,1879, Farmer's Daughter
Kincardine G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Hellen, Daughter, Unmarried, F, 0,1881, Farmer's Daughter
Kincardine G, Rossshire

Kind regards
Amanda