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incoming ,,ishbel is with hubby harold graham grieve,,planter by trade.
last permenat residence,malasia,embarked at singapore
address while here,,30 learmouth avenue,edinburgh

Name: Ishbel Grieve
Birth Date: abt 1902
Age: 46
Port of Departure: Shanghai, China
Arrival Date: 30 Jun 1948
Port of Arrival: Plymouth, England
Ports of Voyage: Shanghai, Hong Kong, Manila, Singapore, Port Swettenham, Penang and St John, New Brunswick
Ship Name: City of Carlisle
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Shipping Line: Ellerman & Bucknall Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 180816

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againwith husband but no children

Name: Ishbel Grieve
Birth Date: 10 Nov 1901
Age: 54
Port of Departure: Kobe, Japan
Arrival Date: 9 May 1956
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Kobe, Hong Kong, Singapore, Port Swettenham, Penang and Colombo
Ship Name: Patroclus
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Shipping Line: Blue Funnel Line
Official Number: 7090/01

address when here

43 coillesdene avenue
joppa,edinburgh

and they say on the passenger lists that they intend taking up residence in scotland for at least 12 months,which could have been permenant?

ishbel macleod,daughter of donald and kate macleod,
married ,harold graham grieve ,,,rubber planter..
on 22 /10 1929

michelle
you can contact evelyn through GR by clicking on her name to send her the details
she would be very pleased no doubt.

Hi there,i stay in stornoway and if you give me your email address i can mail you a contact number of a man who can prob help you.
michelle

Thank you Ann for the 2 sites you suggested I have spent the morning searching but can still find no trace of Robert or Diane, I am tearing my hair out. I am very grateful for your help.
Evelyn

Hello Vivienne,
Please would you tell me where to find the list of names that you have sent me so that I can check some of them out you are very kind to me and I appreciate it, lets hope soon we can find Diane though at the moment I begin to doubt it, I am feeling a bit down about it and think it is never going to happen
Kind Regards
Evelyn

No Year Surname Forename Sex District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract

3 1905 MACLEOD ANN F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0197 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
4 1906 MACLEOD CHRISTINA BELLA F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0180 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
6 1905 MACLEOD DONALDINA MACKE F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0576 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
7 1908 MACLEOD ELIZABETH DENT F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0514 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
8 1908 MACLEOD ELLEN F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0404 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
9 1908 MACLEOD HENRIETTA F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0097 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
11 1906 MACLEOD ISABELLA F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0268 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
12 1904 MACLEOD JANE F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0567 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
15 1905 MACLEOD MARGARET F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0498 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
16 1904 MACLEOD MHAIRI ISHBEL M F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0262 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
19 1904 MACLEOD RUTH F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0467 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
20 1904 MACLEOD SARAH ANN F INVERNESS /INVERNESS 098/00 0163 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

I did send an E Mail to Rev John Macleod but have never received a reply
perhaps he is very busy

well i thought evelyn may have done it before ,as i did suggest that she write to the tarabat minister back in december.
wonder if he is of the same macleod family and a descendant of donald and kate!
would have thought so somehow.
mind you i suggested a lot of things and maybe that was missed.

Victoria -- good thinking on the church contact.

I was going to suggest that yesterday too, before I fell asleep ...

First it said it didn't post, then it posted twice ... deleted duplicate.

My fame spreadeth. ;)

If only I were any good at Scottish stuff ... let alone Irish stuff ...

I was going to say a bit about "Diane" yesterday but had to get some sleep.

I'm with Carol on the alternate-name thing.

"Diane" is a modern name. In the English GRO, from 1900 to 1910, there was a grand total of *six* Diane births registered.

Remember how in the olden days people were Louisa, not Louise? Sophia, not Sophie? Susannah, not Susan?

Diana, yes. Diane, no. So the least I'd consider is Diana, and maybe, if she was so fed up with an old-fashioned awkward name like Donaldina by the time she was a young girl, or when she married, she just rejected it and took on a new-fashioned name.

My grandmother's groom in 1918 thought her name, Lily, was "common", and she became Lilian when she married. We just found someone's grandmother Kathleen Marion being born in the late 1800s as Kate Mary, last week.

So I'd seriously consider looking for Diane under other given names.

I'd also consider the possibility that her parents weren't married, and either

(a) McLeod was her mother's surname, and her father was Robert and in the Seaforth Highlanders, but not a MacLeod

or

(b) her father was Robert MacLeod, but she was registered with her mother's surname.

Those do seem somewhat unlikely in view of the other facts in the story, so I'd consider looking at other MacLeod births in names that she might have abandoned in favour of "Diane".

Victoria I have spent hours (no housework done) trawling through the sites you suggested but have not found anything relevant though I found the experience very interesting, Thank you

Thank you Victoria will do my best

Evelyn

You are not forgotton.

I have sent an email to the present minister at Tarbat , a John MacLeod and am hoping to hear back from him soon.

If you can please follow up on the possible school records that maybe at the Highland Council Archive.

Also I believe that soldiers who were in India around 1908 received the India General Serivce medal 1908. The lists are at the National Archives at Kew, so maybe Robert received one.

You also mentioned that Diane had a private income, coud that have been Robert's army pension, maybe the National Archives have a record of that even if the service record has been destroyed.

I've searched Army Lists to no avail, but you may have better luck, most libraries have a copy.

I am also having trouble finding brith record of one of my relatives supposedly born in India so I think maybe the records are incomplete.

Will be in touch when I have more.

More websites to look at !! ....

http://www.highlander.zetnet.co.uk/tfc/
http://www.highlander.zetnet.co.uk/page2.htm

http://www.fearnpeninsulagraveyards.com/Contact%20The%20Project.html

http://www.highlandfhs.org.uk/

http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/british_regiment/seaforth_highlanders.htm

it was evie who suggested it to me look at my threads sally

have faith evelyn this amazing person called evie beavy has helped me between her and jean i have been in contact on the phone with my uncle and i have an address for my dad without these two wonderful people i have had all my questions answered please be patient it might be worth spending some money on 192.com it helped me try you never know the people will not give uo so dont you help is out there sally

Mums birthyear is given as 1906
she had a beautiful speaking voice with a very soft Scottish accent that everyone admired(except me when she got her dander up). Thank you anyway Carol, you do have some good ideas.

Oh annielaurie I shall have a weepy moment, I dont mean to look for sympathy just to let you know I am not up to speed

Hi Carol, thank you for your help but my mother insisted she was born in
India though one of my brothers told me she was born in Inverness, this was not so she told me she lived at Fort George Inverness after coming over from india. I expect it is quite possible that her name was Donaldina
though would it be in order to call hersef Diane on Legal documents?