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So glad to see you Evelyn......keep your chin up girl! <3


The names probably won't mean anything to you Evelyn, especially as your mother never talked much about her past. There are Donalds and Isabellas and Catherines in the hundreds.


Chris, the obituary I mentioned was from the Stornoway Gazette. :-D



Jan, I think Viv sent for the death cert of that Robert Macleod many moons ago - she discounted him (she's like that! ;-) )



Choccy, that's definitely the same woman..........if only we could find a family member who may know something :-S


I emailed the local church to where she lived, in the hope that the Minister may know if any of her descendants were still around but haven't received a reply as yet.


No reply from my contact on FB either :-(


Yes FBG. No FBG. Three bags full FBG. :-P I is doing my bestest but will try harder - promise :-D


sheeeeeesh...............................some people ;-)

1911 MACLEOD ISABELLA F 74 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 017/00

Looking at above, isn't that Catherine with Isabella?...(or is this another Isabella?)

Angus 43 (Head) (single) Basketmaker. (Blind)
Isabella 74 (Mother) (w)
Catherine 37 (Sister) (single)
Catherine 17 (Niece) (single) both Fishworkers.

Chris :)

edits (107 Birthday also on FMP (new addition) Newspapers, matches find of Choccy, and 106 Birthday announcement, no family names though!)


1837—1943 Isabella Macleod. of Lewis passed her 106 th birthday last week. Western Times South West, England12/11/1943

??
Name: Donald Mackinnon
Spouse Catherine Macleod
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration district: Marylebone
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1493

?Donald's death
Donald of 43 Hamilton Terrace London N.W.8
Died 25th Oct.1948 probate London 2nd Feb to Catherine MacKinnon widow . Effects £16963 14s 3d

I am sure this will have been recorded on a page somewhere but just in case!!!
National Probate Calendar
Robert Macleod of 14 Battery Park Stornaway died 7th March 1917 at Liverpool Comfirmation of Catherine Macleod Mackinnon widow, sealed London 28th January 1918

Just got home from food shopping , found your message Viv , none of those names ring any bells with me.
I know what I would ring if I had a chance,something that supported Diane's head. My goodness she has caused a lot of work and still she eludes us.

Love
Evelyn X

just adding something I found -


Publication:Gloucestershire Echo

Publication date:Friday 28 July 1944

Article text:

"Mrs. Isabella Macleod, of the Isle Lewis, who is in her hundred and seventh year, has received news that a great great-grandson has been born Baltimore. Mrs. Macleod has been drawing the old-age pension since the first day it was instituted."

AHA... The Craken wakes..

At least now we know you is still kicking Evelyn...We all worry when we dont hear from you for a while..

Hope the sun shines a bit for you soon my friend..

(((((x)))))

Chris Ho;)

I found that Isabella MacLeod death by google...

A Hull paper I think..

Hmmmm.
LEWIS WOMAN DIES AT 107
“... WOMAN DIES AT 107 Mrs. Isabella MacLeod, oldest inhabitant of the island of Lewis, died last night in ... ”
First match of your search in this article.


http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk

There are some other Scots ladies reorted dying on there at good ages,but I do not have credit to look at them other than the small piece of headline.

I did check for the Isabella Macleod 107 yrs death in The Dorset Echo but could not see it....But of course there were some additions from around that time missing...Sods law is it not??

The lady at the Dorset History place said that if it was reported in the Dorset Echo then it has to be in a Major paper as well..
Hence my search as above and the only thing that came up...

Hope this helps..
Not a lot I guess but would like to totally discount it if its not anything to do with "our"search..

Back to some drudgery before Mr H returns from school ~~~~~~~~~~~~

Have Pmd FBG

Thank you all for your help, I am not having a very good time at the moment but really do appreciate your kindness to me.

Love to all of you
Evelyn X

http://announce.jpress.co.uk/17243616?s_source=jpsc_stor

(wonder if above were connected, bit too recent!!)

Chris :)

That May 1945 Death, would there be mention in Stornoway Gazette, do you think?...(was this from FBG's recent newspaper search)

Its a good thing I come along and check your posts then init Baggage?????

Glad to hear you will try to do better Baggage...ABOUT TIME.. :-P :-P :-P

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry...............yep, I did miss that bit out....which was fairly crucial really.

BUT, in my humble defence, the Old Bat (FBG) suggested adding the above whilst I was waiting for the family to arrive for my OH's birthday tea. Got a bit confused after that!



I will try and do better in future Miss .............. :-( :-P ;-)

Linda
Thank you for the search...

Trouble is that Isabella Macleod who married Angus Macleod was a MacDonald before marriage..

I think its in Cynthias post?


But in my searching I have also noted that the Montgomery family are somehow related to the Macleods of this lot...
Been working on it and then like you ran out of credits...For now..

Thank you all for the help you give Evelyn......Im saying it for her as she seems to still be AWOL.....

I have emailed Evelyn and sent PMs but she remains schtumm at the moment..
Will be forced to phone her soon if she dont surface...Yep thats a promise not a threat Evelyn so BEWARE .....:P

Do hope she is still with us at times but you know what old age is like....: :-(

Our Old Baggage Cynthia has forgotten or left out one piece of info that I am also interested in but have got no where with so far on this line of enquiry..

Catherine Macleod C1879 daughter of Isabella and Angus is said to have married a possible Macleod and had one daughter at least..
Catherine Mary????
Year Born????
But we DO know now that they lived on ........




INDIA STREET Stornoway...


Off to look for the email that Baggage received.


At last I found it among all the rub....Errrrrr,nice emails that she sends me :-D


Or maybe she didnt wanna give you too much info to work with in case it confuses you like it does her.. :-S


Dear Cynthia
From the information we have in the Tolsta Historical
records, Catherine, Isabella's daughter was married. She had at least one
daughter Catherine Mary and the family lived on India Street Stornoway. I
think their surname was also Macleod and were known in Lewis as Clann a'Phrois.


Best wishes with your research.
Donald Murray

(checks in at latest! Ooh!)...

Chris :)

(looks at Renes, and wonders if that is a plate of edibles, lol)~~~~~~



http://lewis-lost-ww1.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/donald-maciver-13-vatisker.html

(photo of Donald on above)


Name: MACLEOD, Catherine
Registration district: [?] Poole
County: Dorset
Year of registration: 1964
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:84
Volume no: 7C
Page no: 817

(just an aside, did this lady appear in 'Thread' anywhere?, Spinster, Administration to Frederick Wormwell, retired Bank manager)

Well done all

Hope all is well with you Evelyn
<3 <3

Looks like you might be onto something Linda

http://pentlandroad.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/village-memorial-vatisker.html


Private DONALD MACIVER
Last address in Lewis: 13 Vatisker <<<<<<<<<<
Seaforth Highlanders
Date of death: 26 April 1915


Mind you that is 13 not 13a and MCIVER could well be as common a name as Macleod!


Edit : Donald MCIVER with Isabella and family in 1901

Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Angus Macleod
Gender: Female
Where born: Stornoway, rossshire
Registration number: 88
Registration district: Stornoway
Civil parish: Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: 13 Vatisker
Occupation: Crofters Wife
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 85
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_25
Household Members:
Name Age
Angus Macleod 60
Isabella Macleod 60
Isabella Macleod 28
Kenneth Maciver 30
John Maciver 6
Donald Maciver 4
William Maciver 3
George Maciver 1 Mo
John Macleod 24
Catherine Macleod 22

Julie

There is a marriage on SP on 6/1/1910 in Stornoway for Angus Mc Iver age 32yrs a fisherman F is Angus McIver M Isabella McIver ms Montgomery (DEC)

to Catherine MacLeod (x her mark) age 29yrs F is an Alexander MacLeod and M is Isabella MacLeod ms MacLeod

Witnesses Angus MacLeod and Roderick? MacLeod

OR 1901 Census shows 2 Catherine MacLeods aged 22 in Stornoway
1911 shows 2 also aged 30 and 31

I dont have any more credits left dont know if this helps or hinders!

Here we go my friends......something for you to look at and, perhaps, work on.


It appears that the 107 year old lady mentioned by Evelyn's mother all those those years ago could have been:

May 1945 - Mrs Isabella MacLeod aged 107 and 6 months. Of 13 Vatisker. Born in North Tolsta in the year of Queen Victoria's accession.


What has been looked at so far:

l) The newspaper report contains no personal information sadly.

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2) From my contact at the Stornoway Historical Society:

Hi Cynthia,

I have some information on Isabella Macleod's family taken from a Croft History for North Tolsta.

Father: William Macdonald (1811-97) son of Murdo Macdonald, 29 Back, Isle of Lewis
Mother: Margaret Maclennan (1816-95) daughter of John Maclennan, 26 Vatisker, Back, Isle of Lewis

They were cottars (illegal tenants on another croft) at North Tolsta but went to 1 Tolsta in 1851

Issue: -

1. Catherine, 1837-74 m. John Campbell, 54 Tolsta. They had one daughter, Ann. John remarried after her death.
2. Isabella 1838-1945 m. Angus Macleod, 13a Vatisker, Back, Isle of Lewis
3. Ann 1841, died young.
4. Allan 1848-1900 m. Kirsty Maclean, 4 Portnaguran, Point, Isle of Lewis, moved to 67a Tolsta
5. Ann 1851, died young
6. John 1854 - m. Mary Maclennan, 60 Tolsta. John inherited the family croft at 1 Tolsta
7. Margaret 1857- m. Angus Maciver, 11 Tolsta. They were cottars at 1 Tolsta
8. Murdo 1859 - m. Ann Murray, 61 Tolsta

I have a feeling that 'Aunt Kate' must have been one of Isabella's daughters or nieces. Catherine was a common name in the family it appears.
Sadly there is no croft history for Vatisker but I will enquire further.

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3) Below are some of the census which Viv has looked at and she is particularly interested in the daughter Catherine born c1879. She has done some research but has got caught up with something else and could do with some help please.



1881
Reg. District: Stornoway
Sub District:
Parish: Stornoway
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 41, Vatisker, Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MCLEOD, Angus Head Married M 39 1842 Crofter
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Isabella Wife Married F 40 1841
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Isabella Daughter F 8 1873 Scholar
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, John Son M 4 1877
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Catherine Daughter F 1 1880 :-)
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Henrietta Mother Widow F 72 1809 No Occupation
Stornoway G, Rossshire


1891
Reg. District: Stornoway
Sub District:
Parish: Stornoway
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Pri House, Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MCLEOD, Angus Head Married M 50 1841 Crofter
Stornoway Gaelic, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Isabella Wife Married F 52 1839
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, John Son M 14 1877 Scholar
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Catherine Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar :-)
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Donald Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Henrietta Mother Widow F 90 1801
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty



Angus and Isabella married in 1871 on the 16th November
Both down as age 30.

They had 4 children and four living on 1911....and said duration of marriage was 40 years....She is still living with the McIver family side.....


WHO DID DAUGHTER CATHERINE MARRY?

DID SHE, IN FACT, MARRY?

WHERE IS SHE IN 1911?

Those are the questions Viv would like answered the most please. :-D



Cx <3

Well done Cynthia.
Hope springs eternal.
Like you I hope Evelyn is OK as she has had quite a difficult year.