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page 83 that started me off on this


whilst looking for something else this poked me in the eye

D M Leod
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stornoway Isle of Lewes
Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Madeley St Hessle Rd Hull
Occupation: School
Registration district: Hull

:
Name Age
John W Deyes 43 foreman sawyer
Mary Deyes 47
J H Deyes 19
C Deyes 18
D M Leod 13 scholar

looking at the image there is a C next to the M




the 1901 and information that Chrisho found from page 84

MCLEOD, Christina Head Married F 34 1867 Fish Worker
Dunbar, Haddington (same as Mary Deyes 1911)
MCLEOD, Hector Son M 16 1885 Fish Worker
Loucestaft England G & E
MCLEOD, Isabella Daughter F 14 1887
Dunbar, Haddington
MCLEOD, Ellen Daughter F 11 1890 Scholar
Dunbar
MCLEOD, Mary R Daughter F 10 1891 Scholar
Dunbar
MCLEOD, Donaldina Daughter F 7 1894 Scholar
Stornoway, Ross
Piece: 88
Folio: 1
Page: 20
Registration District: Stornoway
Civil Parish: Stornoway
Municipal Borough:
Address: 40, Kipper Road, Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty

(above address as on Cert. for 1898 Birth, strange!)

Chris :)

Marriage
1885 MCLEOD HECTOR ROBERTSON CHRISTINA STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY



Christina McLeod
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Hector McLeod
Gender: Female
Where born: Dunbar, Haddington
Registration Number: 706
Registration district: Dunbar
Civil parish: Dunbar
Town: Dunbar
County: East Lothian
Address: Writers Court


Hector McLeod 28
Christina McLeod 26
Isabella McLeod 2
Helen McLeod 6 M

from fbg
The marriage for Deyes.
Marriages Mar 1891
Deyes John William Hull 9d 349
Robertson Mary Hull 9d 349

That will take a while to work on as Robertson is even more popular than Macleod/McLeod in Scotland..

So Christina is Marys sister from 1911 and Mary has young Donaldina there in London with her....Quick connection there Chris ,well done. fbg

don't forget that English education was, in general, very good in the years from about 1900 to WW2.

Even though people left school at about the age of 12, they had excellent groundings in the basics ........ and speech was often included.

Scottish education was considered even better.


My parents both left school at 12, after having completed the required number of days attendance. But, like millions of others, they never stopped learning.

They always read newspapers, we had a couple of reference books at home ...... not many novels ..... and were vitally interested in all that was going on. I think that was very common ........ night schools etc were there for everyone.

Looking back, it is quite amazing how much they knew about "things" ....... events, how machines worked, just plain general knowledge, etc etc


Plus it was quite possible that Diane paid for elocution lessons after she became of an age to have money .... tha'ts if she was trying to move herself up in the world.

Evelyn.
My mother was exactly the same. Very snobby......think Hyacinth Bouquet.....well spoken, always eager to put everyone else right & never missed an opportunity to tell everyone she had a private school education & as I think I have told you before, there is something "not quite right" about her family too.My brother & I always say that she makes Hans Christian Anderson look like an amateur.
As you say, she wasn´t responsible for how she came into the world, but I think that during the inter war period, people were a lot more secretive than they had been before, or were afterwards.
Keep smiling.
Marion x

Thank you Marion,it makes me wonder what Diane was trying to hide, she was quite a snobby person, perhaps she had dillusions of granduer and had come from very poor beginnings, though as I have said previously she must have had a good education and was knowledgable on lots of subjects, she spoke beautifully and was not inclined to drop her Hs.
Whatever her roots were, however bad ,she was not responsible for that in the same way that I do not feel responsible for the fact that she told so many porkies.
love
Evelyn X

Evelyn.
Console yourself with the fact that even if you were able to have 5 minutes with her, she probably wouldn´t answer your questions. Anyone who has covered their tracks so successfully would be unlikely to spill the beans.
We´ll just have to keep looking.
It´s become an obsession with me. Every site I go to I look for a Macleod link.
Marion

Hello again everyone, sorry not to have posted for a while, have been a bit under the weather, but O K now.
Well the dratted Diane still manages to remain hidden, she must have been born at some stage, I wonder why she wanted to hide the fact, what is the mystery, how I wish I could have a five minute conversation with her.
Many thanks to you all for your interest and help
Love to you all
Evelyn XX

So Christina is Marys sister from 1911 and Mary has young Donaldina there in London with her....Quick connection there Chris ,well done...

And well done for the D M Leod spot on 1911 Quoy.

Have to follow up Dolly/Robert/David Macleod and co as well after this lot I suspect..

I can understand it will take time Fans..........lots of space there for the ideas to swim about it !


There is just SO much information on this thread that it's impossible to keep track of it all. I've tried to list which pages various searches are on - maybe I should post the precis again. :-S

Chris?
Seems the Scots are like the Irish and lose track of years.

:-D :-D

Edits
I am a little lost now,but will catch up..

Still sorting this one in my head so could be some time... :-(

Have deleted my 1901 as Chris has the correct Hector and Christina by the look of things...

1901
MCLEOD, Christina Head Married F 34 1867 Fish Worker
Dunbar, Haddington (same as Mary Deyes 1911)
MCLEOD, Hector Son M 16 1885 Fish Worker
Loucestaft England G & E
MCLEOD, Isabella Daughter F 14 1887
Dunbar, Haddington
MCLEOD, Ellen Daughter F 11 1890 Scholar
Dunbar
MCLEOD, Mary R Daughter F 10 1891 Scholar
Dunbar
MCLEOD, Donaldina Daughter F 7 1894 Scholar
Stornoway, Ross
Piece: 88
Folio: 1
Page: 20
Registration District: Stornoway
Civil Parish: Stornoway
Municipal Borough:
Address: 40, Kipper Road, Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty

(above address as on Cert. for 1898 Birth, strange!)

Chris :)

Marriage
1885 MCLEOD HECTOR ROBERTSON CHRISTINA STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0032

OK FBG The two births on SP are as follows

Donaldina MacLeod DOB 8/11/1897

Father Donald MacLeod Master Shoemaker

Mother Annie MacLeod MS Mackenzie

DOM 22/8/1896 Fraserburgh

GROS ref 088/000288


No2

Donaldina MacLeod DOB 3/1/1898

Father Hector MacLeod Gen Labourer

Mother Christina MacLeod MS Robertson

DOM 3/7/1885 in Stornoway

GROS ref 088/000040

EDIT both births in Stornoway

(just to add, a member called Brenda has J W Deyes in Search Trees here)

Chris :)

Wisechild
Christina Hellen Macleod aged 27=Pass.

Another "cant remember"sorry....

And I have some way to catch Ev up age wise too and my memory is well on its way out.. :-D

Spect its on here somewhere..

But just the thought of trawling the thread AGAIN makes me go all strange....Must go for a lie down now ;-)

Shut it Cynf. :-P

Quoy.
The marriage for Deyes.
Marriages Mar 1891
Deyes John William Hull 9d 349
Robertson Mary Hull 9d 349

That will take a while to work on as Robertson is even more popular than Macleod/McLeod in Scotland..
:-D

I can not remember if that family has been followed or not Jan...

I nearly lost the will to live at one time and had to take a break from this,although it is still on my mind a lot as I would love ANYONE to find the blasted woman for Ev
xx

Linda
I had someone in Scots BMD :-D) very kindly look up all Donaldinas and other sorts ...He spent a lot of lunch hours searching for any possible for her between 1899 and 1910 that I put his way and found nowt.
But of course I/he may have missed THAT elusive one that may have been her..

Back along on this thread are LOADS of poss births that I posted at the time from SP and I know that what I did not check at that time on SP itself then he did in the office...
I have also followed up most of ,if not all,the possibles for a Donaldina or any other name of illegit births in Scotland.
India and Egypt I have had no luck in finding anything at all though..

Hope that helps
Fans..

re the births on SP one is 1897 and the other is 1898 as both are for a female named Donaldina I have a strange feeling that for some reason it has been recorded twice.

Cynthia before I use any credits on SP can you let me know if these have been checked before and if not and you want them checked let me know and I will look at them both

There´s an entry on Anc. Campaign medals for what must be the same chap,because the details are similar.
Only problem is I can´t remember which campaign it was.
Senility gallops on.

PS. Anybody know anything about Christina Hellen MacLeod that I posted yesterday?

The entry posted by Susan as follows

First Name: Robert

Surname: MACLEOD

Regiment: Seaforth Highlanders

Gallantry Awards: Full Access Member Only
Rank: Temporary 2nd Lieutenant

Rank: T/Lt
Is a London Gazette entry which is free to search online. No need to pay a site like that one to obtain it. There's an entry in the London Gazette of 1/6/1917 for a Robert Macleod T/Lt, formerly Seaforth Highlanders. I think AGES ago I looked at all the surviving R Macleod Officers files at Kew and found nothing which fit "our Robert". So, that would mean, I suppose, that either his file hasn't survived, or he served after 1922, in which case his records should still be with the MOD, and we'd need to prove his death to get hold of copies from them, which of course we can't do.

1901 has this family been followed?

RG number: RG13
Piece: 443
Folio: 135
Page: 31
Reg. District: Wandsworth
Sub District: East Battersea
Parish: Battersea
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 6, Lockington Road, Battersea
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MACLEOD, Robert Head Married M 45 1856 Carpenters Labourer
Scotland Sutherland
MACLEOD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1867
Rotherhithe, London
MACLEOD, David Son M 12 1889
Sth Lambeth, London
MACLEOD, Beasley Son M 10 1891
Sth Lambeth, London
MACLEOD, Roydon Son M 7 1894
Deptford, Kent
MACLEOD, Florence Daughter F 5 1896
Waterloo RD, London

same household but different image page
Address: 6, Lockington Road, Battersea
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MEAD, Dolly Daughter Single F 28 1873 Envelope Machinist
Clerkenwell, London

not having any luck finding Dolly anywhere else