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Hello All,
I have pmd you Marion,you are all so kind to me, I find it really touching, thank you all from the bottom of my heart.
Evelyn X

Hi Wisechild, yep, the marriage cert has been 'done' - to death (if you know what I mean :-D)

It's interesting that the birth in Cheshire has the same name. I guess it must be a coincidence as our Diane had died by that date. :-(


Evelyn F-G stated in her will that she spent many happy years at the City of London Girls school teaching the violin. I wondered if that was where she first met Diane. I got in touch with the school earlier this year.........the answer was.....zilch. On both counts :-( :-(


Kathy, if you could do that, it would be wonderful but...........we need to change the age and get a list of those who were over 100. Leave it with me and I'll nag you-know-who and also get her thoughts on Chris's research.



Thanks everyone.

The deaths listed on page 79 do you want me to get them ??? I will be at the register office later this week

Kathy

Couple of questions.
No doubt the info is buried somewhere but don´t have time to trawl through 79 pages,
What are the exact details from your mother´s marriage cert Evelyn?.
Where did the marriage take place & who were the witnesses?
What was the exact date of the marriage?
What was your mother´s occupation?

Do you know who this might be-:
Diane L Roy b 4th quarter 1955 Cheshire MMN Wallace.
Is there any possible info that can be gained from the birth /marriage certs of your siblings (or yourself)
Still trying.
Marion

You had mentioned that before Evelyn, which is what made me wonder about a private school. Maybe one run by the military for forces children.
It´s about time you dusted that crystal ball. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

As Diane said she lived at Fort George in Inverness whilst her father was stationed there, I wonder what age she was then , is it possible that she went to school in Inverness at some stage.
Wherever she was educated they did a good job she spoke beautifully and had a wonderful vocabulary.

Could she have gone to a private school (was there such a thing in Stornoway?).
Just thinking that if she was of statutary school leaving age, or close to it, there may not have been room for her in the state school in such a small place.......always supposing that she did actually go to school there & her memories are not getting confused with schooling that she experienced somewhere else.
Just as a matter of interest has anybody looked at the school admissions for the London area on Ancestry?. Can´t remember the dates they cover.

It's a thought Sylvia. Even if Diane did go to school in Stornoway, she may easily have left at the age of 12 and then gone to live with 'Aunt Kate' ??? Is that feasible?


(I do wish this site would allow us to highlight words!)


Patricia's a good name to follow actually - after all, it IS one of Evelyn's middle names!!!!


Fans dear, if you wish to go to Dorchester...........feel free, after all, you can't really go much further round the bend now can you?? ;-)

1901
POPE, Annabella Head Widow F 53
Stornoway G & E, Ross
POPE, Catherine S Daughter Single F 25 1876 Teacher
Stornoway G & E, Ross
POPE, Annabella M Daughter Single F 21 1880 Milliner
Stornoway G & E, Ross
POPE, Patricia Daughter Single F 19 1882 Scholar
Stornoway E, Ross
POPE, Mary S Daughter Single F 15 1886 Scholar
Stornoway E, Ross N/A
POPE, William Son M 9 1892 Scholar (Merchant Navy, died 1914/1919 google)
Stornoway E, Ross
Piece: 88
Folio: 1
Page: 1
Registration District: Stornoway
Civil Parish: Stornoway
Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Newton Street, Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty

(just adding above for reference)

Chris :)


edits with link (son of Catherine S Maclean. Death)


http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19810914&id=icFAAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3aUMAAAAIBAJ&pg=2403,2600023


Name: Murdo Maclean
Probate Date: 1 Apr 1950
Death Date: 23 Aug 1949
Death Place: Isle of Lewis
Registry: London, England

(to Peter Mitchell Pope Maclean)


http://www.ambaile.org/en/item/item_photograph.jsp?item_id=6309

(could be Patricia above?)


and lastly, lol, have just seen Patricia in 2 Trees on GR search!.

So I have to go to Dorchester to trawl the papers then I guess or be driven even more round the bend with this.???
Havent been to Dorchester since my Paternal Grandparents lived near there when I was a teenager and we went food shopping ... :-D

Next time I go to Somerset I shall try to get there...Its only a looooooong day trip from Glastonbury area and a horrid road if I remember correctly. :-P

Night all~~~

Catherine Stephen Maclean was born in 1875 and married in 1903 to Murdo..I know her death age is out but it is about the correct time as Aunt Kate ,going on Diane s say so on a newspaper article and Ev saying it has to be beetween 1945 and 1951 but prob late 40s as she thinks she was about 15/16 and interested in boys,not newspaper articles...:))
The Macleans have one child ,a son , on 1911 whos name I can not make out.

Catherine Stephen Maclean (Nee Pope) had a sister called Patricia Pope born 1882 Stornoway same as herself and I can not find Patricia after 1901...Marriage/death/passenger or on 1911 Scotland ,England or Wales...

Where did she go ???

Well yer gotta follow up a name like Patricia havent yer just???

More wild goose chasing:)

Mother always told me that she went to school in Stornoway but never said which school. Dont know if I dreampt it but I seem to remember her saying they used chalk and slate boards.

Picking up on what wisechild said re schooling ...............



My mother was born in 1903 and my father in 1904.

BOTH left school at the age of 12, having completed the required number of days attendance. Mum left in 1915 and Dad in 1916.

Mum had passed an exam to go on to "grammar school" for another 2 years of education ......... but she was not allowed to take up that offer.

Her father was in the Army, and her mother had a new baby born in late 1915. So Mum had to go out to work to help support the family.



so it is possible that Diane did not go to school in Stornoway.


I never thought of that at any time when I have read the thread.





sylvia

Hi Cynthia,

No problem just trying to think outside the box. I had to search old Church records once but they weren't at the Church were kept elsewhere also old school records (for Glasgow) are with the main library (in Glasgow)

As you say one day something will turn up totally unexpected :-D

Hi Linda, sorry I missed your post on page 78 - it was slapbang in the middle of all the birthday congrats for our Evelyn. :-D

Church records can be very useful I agree and, as far as the MacLeods family is concerned, we've had quite a bit of contact with the present incumbent of the church in Tarbat. He was really helpful but, sadly, nothing of any use was found.


We've also been in touch with the Stornoway Historical Society several times and Willie Foulgar has done lots of searching for us......again.....zilch :-(

Everytime I see the weather map and the north of Scotland is mentioned or shown, my mind immediately goes to our search ..........

The main problem with our Diane is that we don't know what name she went under pre1927. Minnie Mouse really does fit the bill sometimes.


Keep the ideas coming folks......just one little break is all we need. :-D

Just checking in Chris would it be worth sending an email to the above and asking if they have any suggestions to trace Diane?

http://www.stornowayhistoricalsociety.org.uk/

(Oh look at above, we could have all gone!, lol)

Chris :)

Call it refusal to be defeated Evelyn.
That would mean that she was there from about 1916 until about 1920, assuming that she left school at 14 or 15.Perhaps she was sent there for safety during WW1.
Maybe she never actually went to school there if she was 12 when she arrived. No idea what the legal school leaving age was in those days & being wartime, things could have been different.
She was at Springfield hospital in the early 20 (can´t remember the exact details off hand) Perhaps she worked as a nursing assistant in Stornoway, rather than being at school.Or if not a hospital as such, a convalescent home for wounded servicemen. Was there such an establishment in Stornoway.
Sorry if I´m letting my imagination run away with me. Just throwing out ideas.
If she had some experience of dealing with shell shocked patients, it would have stood her in good stead at Springfield.

Judging by things that Diane told me I assume her to have been in Stornoway when she was 11 or 12 I dont know how long she was there or why she left there.
I never saw a photo of Diane when she was young, so have no idea what she looked like as a child. Happy hunting everyone, and bless you all for your interest
Evelyn XX.

I was being polite Evelyn. Very unlike me, but it´s a public site.
Think Linda´s idea is a good one except for the fact that no one has any idea exactly when Diane was meant to be in Stornoway, other than she was sent there when she was young.........so could be any time between 1906 & 1920, depending on your idea of young. Don´t think we know how long she lived there either do we?. Could have been anything from a few months to several years.
My grandmother was orphaned when she was 11 & always said she was sent to live with relatives of her mother in London & was badly treated there.
Turns out she went to live with her half brother & sister in law in her home town & was so unmanageable that after 18 months or so, they put her into a home for "difficult" girls.
Stories eh!!! :-D :-D :-D