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Evelyn

Evelyn Report 9 Aug 2012 13:59

I am thinking far worse than that Marion.
Linda thank you for your input, I dont know how to do what you suggest, think I am a bit thick.

wisechild

wisechild Report 9 Aug 2012 13:40

Evelyn.
Beginning to suspect she was christened Minnie Mouse or something similar ;-) ;-)

Marion

Linda

Linda Report 9 Aug 2012 13:10

I did make a suggestion on page 78 on 21st July which no-one has commented on?

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 9 Aug 2012 09:36

Oh Diane where the heck did you come from, I have heard of storks and gooseberry bushes and am now beginning to believe in them.
Thank you so much everyone for your input, it is much appreciated.
Evelyn

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2012 08:22

http://www.dorsetforyou.com/dorsethistorycentre/microfilm

(the above has some newspapers, not sure what GR has with their British Library collection?)


No sighting of Wills for names listed on Ancestry Index, only a Catherine Stephen Maclean, 1947, (wife of Murdo Maclean, Lewis St. Stornoway) (sorry!).


44, Dafforne Road, 1955 occupants George DC Fenwick Goddard, Patricia EM Fenwick Goddard

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 8 AUGUST, 1939 THE BANKRUPTCY
GODDARD-FENWICK, George Digby. Crofton, Mount Roland,
Rustington, Sussex. SCHOOLMASTER. Court—BRIGHTON and LEWES (at
Brighton).

(above from google, probably why couldn't find a Will for him)

Chris :)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Aug 2012 22:13

Yep.....I think you're right! 100 and summat it was. :-(

I've been trawling back and forth through these pages when I've had a chance. Will try again tomorrow sometime.


Thank you for visiting. Much appreciated. Please call back soon...... ;-)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 8 Aug 2012 21:30

Diane died in 1952 so it has to be before then that she saw the Obit..

No Year Surname
/Maiden Name Forename Mother's
Surname Other
Surnames S
e
x A
g
e District City/
County/
MR GROS
Data Image Extract
1 1952 LIDDLE CATHERINE JANE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0195
2 1948 MACAULAY CATHERINE MACLEOD F 92 LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0006
3 1941 MACGREGOR CATHERINE MACLEOD F 91 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0128
4 1945 MACKAY CATHERINE MACLEOD F 96 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0131
5 1940 MACKENZIE CATHERINE MACRITCHIE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0055
6 1941 MACKENZIE CATHERINE F 92 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0042
7 1952 MACKENZIE CATHERINE MACLEOD F 94 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0154
8 1941 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACGREGOR F 91 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0128
9 1945 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACKAY F 96 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0131
10 1948 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACAULAY F 92 LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0006
11 1951 MACLEOD CATHERINE F 95 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0069
12 1952 MACLEOD CATHERINE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0008
13 1952 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACKENZIE F 94 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0154
14 1951 MACPHAIL CATHERINE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0072
15 1940 MACRITCHIE CATHERINE MACKENZIE F 90 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0055

1 1948 MACIVER KATE F 92 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0121
2 1947 MURRAY ALICK KATE F 91 STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0176

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 8 Aug 2012 21:16

OK...I thought Aunt Kate was stated as being 101 when seen in that Obit by Diane ....Sorry Cyn...Not trawling back through thread now ,but may later....

All my searches and records are still on SP of course and I opened a LOT of poss deaths for Aunt Kate ????...

And a member in the right place to do searches Gratis did as well(Thank you to him also for lots of time spent searching BMD,S in his lunch hours to no avail )

Going back to SP to re-look at Aunt Kates death searches around the right time and right age at death(about 101?)...Prob /maybe get back Manyana... :-P

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Aug 2012 12:04

So glad that both of you posted that info as it has jogged my memory!


Fans sent for Rev. Donald and Mrs MacLeods deaths certs last year!! He died in 1930 and SHE died in 1935. Both at Roseneath, Dumbartonshire. So the Kate mentioned in the newspaper can't be the same Kate can it?


However, Donald and Kate's daughter went to live in the Penzance area and he was present at her death in 1923.

Fans then checked on a Captain Roderick Willoughby MacLeod (1858) who is on the 1911 census with his sister Ethel Bolitho (nee MacLeod).

I don't think we ever worked out if there was a connection with all these MacLeods though - but the area is interesting.

Also, some of the Goddard-Fenwicks lived in the Cornwall/Devon/Dorset area.


I'll ask Fans if she can remember any more.........she isn't looking after Mr Hurricane at the mo so may be able to pop in.

I will don my hard hat.........wish me luck........ ;-)

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 7 Aug 2012 22:02

Good to have the info in one place - thanks, Cynthia.

There are a few possibilities of deaths on the Probate Index on Ancestry but not all Scottish wills would be included, of course.

I find it a bit odd that there would have been a mention in a Dorset newspaper, unless she had a strong connection to Dorset, was of a great age (perhaps 100, or over), she left a fortune in a will or she had an unusual death, for example.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Aug 2012 21:38

And with the Probate Index now up to 1966, mystery Aunt Kate could well be on it!, lol.

Hmm...

Chris :)




Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Aug 2012 21:37

You're welcome Evelyn....... <3


Okay.....anyone out there from Dorset ????? :-D

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 7 Aug 2012 20:20

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE THE PAPER WAS CALLED THE DORSET DAILY ECHO
Cynthia you really are a gem, thank you so much for all your hard work, I really do appreciate it
Evelyn X

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Aug 2012 19:52

Okay folks.....here we go.........


DIANE LESLIE MacLEOD born cJune 1906-8 India?


No verification of this birth can be found whatsoever. Searches have been
made of Indian, Scottish and English births by many people but to no avail as yet.


Possibilities: This is not her real name.

DIANE: Searches have been made under: Donaldina, Dolinda, Dolina etc. - nothing found.


LESLIE: She was very attached to her middle name of Leslie and insisted it was spelt that way. She gave the name to one of her sons. Some searches have been made re this name but maybe we need to do more.


MacLEOD : On her marriage certificate (1929 in London), she states her
father to be Major Robert MacLeod of the 1st Seaforth Highlanders, Deceased. Nothing of him can be confirmed despite extensive military searches being made. These can be found on ps 2-4 and 14-15 – 29 and 36 of this thread.


Her family were told that she went to live on Stornoway with ‘Aunt Kate and
cousins Donald & Ishbel (Isabelle)’. This family has been researched as probably the family of Rev. Donald MacLeod who was the minister of the church in Tarbat. The present Incumbent of that church has been contacted and was most helpful.


That family consisted of:
Donald Smith MacLeod 1854 -1930 in Roseneath, Dumbarton.
Kate Isles Wylie 1864 - 1935 (Widow) in Roseneath,
Jean Annabella 1888 - ?
Katherine Mary 1890 - ? Married Archibald K. MacLean.
Donald Stanley 1890 – Lieut. RN.
Murdo 1891 - Wounded at Gallipoli
Lizzie Isles 1893 – Married a McMurchie
Hector Ian 1895 – 1916 Killed in Action
Ishbel 1896 – 1976 in Inverness. Married a Grieve
Barabel 1898 – 1923 in Cornwall
Norman 1900 – Wounded in France 1918
Margaret 1900 - ????
Roderick Callum 1902 - ?
Barabel, who was a Seed Analyst, for the Board of Agriculture, died at the
age of 25 in Cornwall. FBG discovered a family by the name of Bolitho one of whom married a MacLeod from Ross-shire. See p. 44 of this thread for more details.


Various agencies in Tarbat have been contacted re this family and Diane but nothing found.


Diane stated that she went to school in Stornoway. The most likely school
would be the Nicolson Institute. A search has been made for her under D.L.M but there is no sign of her under that name.

Other local schools have been contacted but there is nothing to be found under D.L.M.


Some doubt has emerged as to whether or not Tarbat is the right place to be looking as it is too far away from Stornoway.


There is no sign of a DLM on the 1911 Scottish census see p.41


The first absolute sighting we have of her is when she started work at Springfield
7.6.1927 - 19.6.1928. There are, apparently, no more notes in her file.


In 1929 she married, as Diane Leslie MacLeod, a Herbert R.J. Roy in London. Up until her marriage, she received a private allowance, source unknown.


The address given on her marriage certificate is 53 Khartoum Road, Wandsworth, London. The Electoral Roll for 1929 shows the family living at that address were named Kirby. There is no sign of Diane anywhere in Khartoum Road . She may just have been boarding there for a short time prior to her marriage.


Our Evelyn was born in 1932 at 44 Dafforne Road, Wandsworth and Diane and her husband show up there on the Electoral Roll. The voters listed at 44 Dafforne Road in 1932 are:


Evelyn Gertrude Goddard-Fenwick Herbert Robert John Roy, Diane Leslie Roy, Kathleen McDowell. The voters listed at the same address in 1931, in case it is of relevance, are Frederick Robert Smithson, Alice Smithson, Edward Hubert Mearing, Doris Mearing, and Kathleen McDowell, and in 1933, Evelyn Gertrude Savile Goddard-Fenwick, Emily Goddard-Fenwick, and Kathleen McDowell. It looks very much as though this was a house which had lodgers.


Some research has been done on the other occupants but nothing worthwhile was found.


Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick is whom our Evelyn is named after and was her
Godmother. See ps. 22-23 of this thread for more details.


Various living Goddard-Fenwick’s have been contacted but to no avail. You can pm me for details on that. We have, over the last couple of years, drawn up a fairly comprehensive family tree for the G-Fs but simply cannot trace the connection.


Just before the search drew to a halt last year, Evelyn remembered her mother reading a local newspaper (Dorset?)in the early 1950's and finding either an article or an obituary about a very old lady who had died in Stornoway aged 91. She stated that it was Aunt Kate.


Scotland's People was searched for possible deaths but again, we drew a blank. It would be helpful if we could get a copy of that newspaper but that's rather a longshot I think - unless ????


So this is where the search is up to so far and many members have taken Evelyn and her search to their hearts.


If anyone feels they would like to tackle any of the unresolved issues or
re-check anything that has already been done….please do so. It may be that something has been missed or new information is available. Any new info can be added on here.


Evelyn dearest, could you please verify the name of the newspaper for us - it may just be that someone lives near to where the records are kept and could spend some time in a search. We live in hope....... :-D


Cx

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 7 Aug 2012 12:12

thank you so much Cynthia, you really area gem. XX

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Aug 2012 11:30

Hello Evelyn, proud owner of ipad!!


I will try and get an up-to-date precis of where we are with Diane sorted as soon as I can.

When we kick into gear again re what has been researched, it would be helpful if those involved could check the page numbers I give to save going over old ground.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if some new and relevant material has been published on line since last year??? :-D :-D


Will do my bestestestest...... :-D



Back later ~~~~

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 7 Aug 2012 10:10

Hello Everyone,
here I am back from my travels, I had a wonderful birthday and am now the owner of an I Pad, I am learning (slowly ) how to use it, seems to be a very clever little gadget but I bet it cant find Diane!!
Love to you all
Evelyn X

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 23 Jul 2012 16:23

I wish you a very happy Birthday Marion
Evevelyn X

wisechild

wisechild Report 23 Jul 2012 07:13

Have a good birthday Evelyn.
Mine is the 30th, so I´ll raise a glass to the two of us.
Marion

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 22 Jul 2012 19:03

Thank you everyone for your good wishes, 29th is the big day, it will be lovely to spend it with my family
Love to you all