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Hi Vanessa and welcome to the thread. Thank you for your thoughts......and wisechild's comment re groping in the dark is just about right! But we are willing to try all avenues and need to find someone with a searchlight...:-D


Thanks Jan and Jooleh but I am not sure where to go with the census.......you know I am pretty hopeless with census info.........




Thinking of Evelyn.......


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possible Ryder family
1891
Name: Mary Ryder ??sister in law
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ellen Ryder
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London

Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Ryder 65
Walter Ryder 37
Samuel Ryder 35?? is marriage below then this one
Mary Ryder 34
Eliza Guess 65
Ellen Little 25

Name: RYDER, Samuel Jonathan
Registration District: Help Wandsworth
County: London
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 1D
Page No: Help 1415
on same page
MCLEOD, Isabel Maud

1901
Name: Isabel M Ryder
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Head married
Gender: Female
Where born: Birkenhead, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
County/Island: Sussex

Name: Mary C Ryder
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Sister-in-Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Walkhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
County/Island: Sussex


Name: Mary A Barrett
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipperary, Ireland
Civil parish: St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard



Name: Isabel B Ryder
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Isabel M Ryder
Gender: Female
Where born: Toohing, Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Leonard

Julie 1911 census

RYDER, Isabel Maud Head Widow F 39 1872 Birkenhead
RYDER, Eileen Maud Daughter F 7 1904 Upper Tooting
MACLEOD, Patrick Son M 2 1909 Upper Tooting
GREENAWAY, Sarah Servant Single F 21 1890 General Servant Domestic Kenwell Moor Middx
image Isabel widow 3children living (line through that info)
will see if 3rd child is on 1901

Problem is Vanessa that we are groping in the dark here.
We have no idea where the "Leslie" comes from.
Could be her mother´s maiden name, her grandmother´s maiden name or absolutely no family connection whatsoever.
I have been thinking for a while that there´s a connection with the family in Liverpool, but who knows??

Like many others, I have been following this from the beginning and am so soo wanting Evelyn to have an answer. It has been mentioned more than once that Diane was 'protective' of the Leslie name. So a little off centre, but has this set of marriages been investigated? Are Leslie & Mcleod the couple? This is the only marriage on BMD for Leslie & M*leod!

Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
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JONES Rebecca Liverpool 8b 300
>>> Leslie John Liverpool 8b 300
>>> McLeod Catherine Liverpool 8b 300
Moran Patrick Liverpool 8b 300

Probably just another coincidence, but we have Catherine (Kate?).

Here's hoping :-D

Unlike FMP GR very kindly provide birth place in the free index!

Wonder if this is their son:


Surname
Forename
Place of birth
Location in 1911

MACLEOD Patrick 1909 Upper Tooting Staines

Transcript anyone?

Thanks
Julie

Interesting obituary Jan. It says he took a " deep and active interest" in the welfare of those in the nursing profession. Wonder if he ever had an encounter with a Nurse Macleod lol.

Thanks to peeps following up on PM Macleod at 22 Terrapin Road. (Good find FBG for Norah/Eleanora in Ireland!) See my post on pg 60 for more info on that family. Perhaps they just happened to be a Macleod family living in Tooting. Just for the record Patrick and Norah married in Ireland in 1903:

Norah D M Stewart Apr-May-Jun 1903 Monaghan

Patrick M'Farlane M'Leod Apr-May-Jun 1903 Monaghan

Haven't found either of them in 1911 on FMP or in Ireland. Wonder where they were?

Julie

link to info about Dr Robert Leslie
ROBERT MURRAY LESLIE, M.A., M.D.Edin., M.R.C.P.Lond
Br Med J 1921 April 9;

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2414916/?page=1 :-\

So not my Agnes d/o George Leslie born Stornoway.
Will have to backtrack.
That´ll keep me quiet this afternoon.
:-( :-( ;-) ;-) ;-)

1871
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Leslie 52
Jane Leslie 46
Agnes Leslie 16
Helen Leslie 13
Eliza Leslie 9
Ann Leslie 6
Isabella Leslie 3
Thomas Leslie 1

if it hasn't been posted i think this could be the Agnes in 1861
Name: Agnes Leslie
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William Leslie
Mother's Name: Jane Leslie
Gender: Female
Where born: Keith, Banffshire
Registration Number: 159
Registration district: Keith
Civil parish: Keith
County: Banffshire

Household Members:
Name Age
William Leslie 42
Jane Leslie 37
Jane Leslie 16
William Leslie 11
Chira Leslie 8
Agnes Leslie 6
Aden Leslie 4
Fanny Leslie 1

That will teach me not to go to specsavers then wont it.... :-D

And not to check original image proper like...

Good one Stuart

Sorry Lolly... :-P

Sorry FBG - It is Agnes F Leslie on both the 1891 & 1911 in Brighton, as Stuart says wrongly transcribed as Houghton on the 1911 :-P

Lolly ;-)

Going demented here, but so far have found the following family of Leslies .
Alexander b abt 1818
wife Isabella Christina nee Murray b abt 1824
Their son Robert Murray Leslie was a consultant physician.
He married in 1920 Gwladys Olive Keith & died in 1921 (He was 54 & she was 26). He left a will with an estate of 3392.11.8d
He had a practice in Harley Street & home address of 56, Harley House, Regents Park. In 1901 his sister Frances Mary was living with him.
Alexander & Isabella lived at Wester Suddie Farm House Knockbain.
Alexander died 7.8.1881
In 1891 Isabella was living with Elizabeth & Jane Murray (probably her spinster sisters) at Flemington Farm House & Frances & Robert were with her.
So difficult, not being able to see the Scottish transcripts.
This is the only family of Leslies I have found on the island & it´s highly possible that they aren´t linked to Diane, but I wondered if she went to London to stay with Robert the doctor & that´s where she got the idea of being a nurse (& possibly her private income after he died)
Confusion reigns.

thanks Stuart

Re jansmith census above
Houghton Aina A is definitely not on the image. Although Agnes looks as though it has been spelt Aj and the nes is poor but then it is F Leslie. Transcript error reported.

Have side tracked somewhat & gone back to the family I think were Agnes´s in Stornoway in 1841.
The person I think is her grandmother is Susannah Leslie nee Ash & her grandfather was George.
Her father was also George & her mother Margaret as mentioned before.
Her father´s youngest sister was Barbara Catherine Leslie, born Stornoway 9.2.1837.
Can´t find a marriage for Susannah & George & he must have died before official registration. She was English, but again, can´t track her down.
Going to look now to see if any of the siblings had a daughter Catherine or Kathleen.
What better way to spend a Saturday afternoon???
Marion

1911?
Reg. District: Brighton Sub District: East Brighton
Parish: Brighton Enum. District: 24
Address: 86 Marine Parade Brighton
County: Sussex

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
WHITE, Abigail M Head Single F 67 1844 Privatre Means Graham Tow N South Africa
MARSHALL, Alice B Servant Single F 34 1877 Trained Nurse Norwood S
UPPERTON, Ada E Servant Single F 24 1887 Nurse Hove Sussex
HOUGHTON, Aina A Servant Single F 54 1857 Cook Banffshire***********can someone check this on image its not Houghton so think it might be Leslie??
HOUGHTON, Eliza A Servant Single F 40 1871 Parlourmaid Northampton
AVIS, Charlotte M Servant Single F 24 1887 Housemaid London W C
OWENS, Dorothy M Servant Single F 16 1895 Between Maid Preston Sussex

Just to add
Agnes in Brighton is def the one who died in Sept q 1911 but I am blessed if I can find her on 1911 in any ruddy country let alone the Brighton area.

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