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Hi Viv I haven't paid membership on here for a while but just realised you were still in my contacts. I still follow Evelyn's thread and plug away at a few things. Anyway I have come across a Gladys Sybil Enid Leslie born in 1900 and I can't find what happened to her, no marriage or death that I can find. She is on the 1901 census aged 10months with her mother Georgina A H Leslie maiden name Best and father Thomas Dowglasse Leslie who was in the Bengal Staff Corps in India, It says Gladys was born India but it wasn't the case she was born Eastbourne, Sussex. Thomas dies in India in 1904 and Gladys is with her mother on the 1911 census, It says Georgina is a widow married 7 years, living on private means and they just had one child. I know the dates are out but anything is possible with this one I think. Could you possibly rule her out as Diane. I'm not too good with English records and I know I'm clutching at the most random things.
Tracey.

Tracey sent a second one saying that she had found the death of Gladys in 1994 in Kensington so that rules her out.


I have added this PM as I thought it should be added to let people know that others to follow this thread and try to help..

Such kind peope we have on here...
Fans... <3

Sorry Cynthia.
I missed that. I tend to go off line at about 4pm UK time as I´m an hour ahead & tea preparation beckons. That´s when I have some of my best thoughts & by the time I look gain, somebody´s already got there.
It´s good though that so many people are obsessed with this lady.
Marion

Beat you to it Wisechild!!! I mentioned that yesterday (see previous page). :-D :-D :-D


I am waiting for a contact on FB to make some enquiries for me re the MacLeods.


Every little helps.

Just a thought.
Was there a boarding school in Stornoway where she stayed & just went to Aunt Kate at weekends/holidays in view of the fact that Tarbet & Stornoway are too far apart for her to have been a day pupil.

DIANE LESLIE MacLEOD born cJune 1906-8 India?

No verification of this birth can be found whatsoever. Searches have been
made of Indian, Scottish and English births by many people but to no avail as yet.

Possibilities: This is not her real name.
DIANE: Searches have been made under: Donaldina, Dolinda, Dolina etc.


LESLIE: She was very attached to her middle name of Leslie and insisted it was spelt that way. She gave the name to one of her sons. Some searches have been made re this name. More may need to be done.


MacLEOD : On her marriage certificate (1929 in London), she states her
father to be Major Robert MacLeod of the 1st Seaforth Highlanders, Deceased. Nothing of him can be confirmed despite extensive military searches being made. These can be found on ps 2-4 and 14-15 – 29 and 36 of this thread.


Her family were told that she went to live on Stornoway with ‘Aunt Kate and
cousins Donald & Ishbel (Isabelle)’. This family has been researched as probably the family of Rev. Donald MacLeod who was the minister of the church in Tarbat. The present Incumbent of that church has been contacted and was most helpful. *

The family consisted of:
Donald Smith MacLeod 1854 -1930 in Roseneath, Dumbarton.
Kate Isles Wylie 1864 - 1935 (Widow) in Roseneath,
Jean Annabella 1888 - ?
Katherine Mary 1890 - ? Married Archibald K. MacLean.
Donald Stanley 1890 – Lieut. RN.
Murdo 1891 - Wounded at Gallipoli
Lizzie Isles 1893 – Married a McMurchie
Hector Ian 1895 – 1916 Killed in Action
Ishbel 1896 – 1976 in Inverness. Married a Grieve
Barabel 1898 – 1923 in Cornwall
Norman 1900 – Wounded in France 1918
Margaret 1900 - ????
Roderick Callum 1902 - ?


More needs to be done on Margaret and Roderick. Margaret was still at home on the 1911. Where did Donald jnr go? Various agencies in Tarbat have been contacted re this family and Diane but nothing found.


It was hoped we had a lead to Jean Annabella but…….? See this link for further info

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273853

Barabel, who was a Seed Analyst, for the Board of Agriculture, died at the
age of 25 in Cornwall. FBG discovered a family by the name of Bolitho one of whom married a MacLeod from Ross-shire. See p. 44 of this thread for more details.

Diane stated that she went to school in Stornoway. The most likely school
would be the Nicolson Institute. A search has been made for her under D.L.M but there is no sign of her under that name. An enquiry at other local schools may be helpful, maybe looking for a child with the Minister’s address rather than a Diane L. M. **


There is no sign of her under DLM on the 1911 Scottish census see p.41


A member on here discovered that ‘Diane’ worked at Springfield Hospital in London from 1927-1928. see p.32. Where was she before that?


In 1929 she married, as Diane Leslie MacLeod, a Herbert R.J. Roy in London. Up until her marriage, she received a private allowance, source unknown. The address given on her marriage certificate is 53 Khartoum Road, Wandsworth, London. The Electoral Roll for 1929 shows the family living at that address were named Kirby. There is no sign of Diane anywhere in Khartoum Road . She may just have been boarding there for a short time prior to her marriage.


Evelyn was born in 1932 at 44 Dafforne Road, Wandsworth and, at least, Diane and her husband show up there on the Electoral Roll. The voters listed at 44 Dafforne Road in 1932 are:


Evelyn Gertrude Goddard-Fenwick Herbert Robert John Roy, Diane Leslie Roy, Kathleen McDowell. The voters listed at the same address in 1931, in case it is of relevance, are Frederick Robert Smithson, Alice Smithson, Edward Hubert Mearing, Doris Mearing, and Kathleen McDowell, and in 1933, Evelyn Gertrude Savile Goddard-Fenwick, Emily Goddard-Fenwick, and Kathleen McDowell. Was this a rental property?


Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick is whom our Evelyn is named after and was her
Godmother. See ps. 22-23 of this thread for more details. ***


Various living Goddard-Fenwick’s have been contacted but to no avail. You can pm me for details on that.


So this is where the search is up to so far and many members have taken Evelyn and her search to their hearts.


If anyone feels they would like to tackle any of the unresolved issues or
re-check anything that has already been done….please do so. It may be that something has been missed or new information is available. Any new info can be added on here.


* There is some uncertainty about this family and area.

** A renewed search at the Nicolson Institute is being undertaken next week when the school reopens.

*** I have sent for a copy of EFG's will to see if it throws any light on things. We need a veritable searchlight for this story! :-D

:-D :-D :-D

Gee, thanks Sylvia........... :-(


Got any good news? :-D :-D




Hi Carol, random thoughts welcome. I'll repost the precis I did recently to remind everyone of what we have covered so far. :-D

Cynthia

I read this thread often, but haven't posted very much

Just to say that you might have a long wait for that will ................ I think people were waiting 3 or 4 months last year :-|


sylvia

Thanks Cynthia..

Just sitting thinking about Evelyn's mum, and like everyone else she is driving me batty! lol

Hope you don't mind, but will keep posting 'random' thoughts.. you never know...

have a great night.

PS.. at lunch time for about the past year, reading this post and eating my sarnies has been my "thinking" time. But so far everything i have thought of, you have all covered..

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Hi Carol, thank you for your dedication to this search! Impressive stuff.


The 1911 you quoted has already been researched - Fans did that when she was sitting on the edge of her seat waiting for the 1911 Scottish census to be released.......(page 41).


A lot of research has been done on the MacLeods and we have them almost sewn up but there is some doubt now as to whether we have the right area. We're working on it!!


Thanks for all input.

:-D :-D :-D :-D

another random thought...

I can find no Robert McCleod or McLeod who received the DSO and MC during the Great War. There is a Captain (Acting Major) Roderick McLeod who received the DSO, MC and two MIDs. Could there be some confusion between the two men?

could Robert be Roderick?

Had another wee thought....

would it be possible to search the schools for brother and sister, Ishbelle and Donald, rather than Diane?

Sorry, if this has been done, had a quick squint through the threads and couldn't see it.

thanks

Carol
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Hi everyone..

I have been on Genes since 2005.. but let my membership lapse a few years back. However, i have been avidly following Evelyns thread for a long time!!

I found this on SP and had to re-scubscribe so i could post it! I couldn't even send a PM to anyone.. But if it works out then it will be worth it :)

the 1911 census

1911 MCLEOD DIANA F 21 REAY /CAITHNESS 040/00 004/00 003
2 1911 MCLEOD DIANA F 32 COIGACH /ROSS AND CROMARTY 075/02 001/00 007
3 1911 MCLOAD DIANA F 42 WICK /CAITHNESS 043/00 008/00 026

Thank you for that Jooleh - I think every MacLeod possible has been well and truly covered.......didn't realise there could be so many of them.


LK, I gues we would have to get hold of a MacLeod family member to get a match.


As far as the cousins are concerned, Evelyn has said that her mother talked of her cousins as if they were older than she. The MacLeod family which seemed most likely to match with Kate, Donald and Ishbel, were the family of the Rev. Donald MacLeod of Tarbat and lots of research has been done on that family.


However, Woody (who lives up in Scotland), says that Tarbat and Stornoway are too far apart for Diane to have gone to school in Stornoway. It is possible that she just visited the MacLeods during holidays I suppose.


I have had contact from the link which Woody provided and they are extremely helpful (thanks Woody). They are helping with the research on the Nicolson Institute archives and will get back to me as soon as possible.


Also, I have had a message on FB from someone who is related to the above MacLeod family - I am waiting to hear back from them.


Still waiting for the EFG will to arrive! Cor, don't you have to be patient on this thread.... :-D


Love to Evelyn........we're still trying.......xxx

Probably these questions have already been asked, but the thread is too long now to find the answers.
Diane went to Stornaway "at a young age" Do we know approximately how young.
Is it possible she was sent there to keep her out of harms way during WW1?
Do we know if the cousins were younger or older than her?
Have never seen mention of an uncle to go with Aunt Kate. Was there one, or was she a widow or maybe her husband was away fighting in the war.
Possibly her father was away in the war too & there was no one else to leave her with, especially if her mother had died.

I was talking to OH about this today and mentioned the Goddard Fenwicks and the musical links and also the nuns links amd he said

"oh the original Sister Act"

I just wonder though if she was an orphan and given the name by the nuns.

I wonder if it would be worth Evelyn having a DNA test to confirm she is linked to the Mcleod clan in Stornaway. Or even confirm if her cousins are actually blood cousins or children of aunt Kate who was called Aunt Kate out of respect as was common at that time.
I know it would be difficult but may give us a lead.

Hi all

After much googling I finally found a site giving details of the whereabouts of the 1st
Battalion Seaforth Highlanders.

See here: http://www.britisharmedforces.org/i_regiments/seaforth_index.htm

Here are the postings from 1899 to 1924
1899 Egypt
1903 India: Nasirabad
1906 Nowshera
1908.02 NW Frontier
1908.05 Nowshera
1910 Chaubattia
1911.12.11 Colours presented by HM King George V at Delhi
1912 Agra
1914.10 France and Flanders Meerut Div
1916.01 Mesopotamia
1918.06 Palestine
1919 Scotland: Fort George
1920 Ireland: Belfast
1924 England: Aldershot

In 1911 they were in Dehli for a state visit. The visit was organised with military precision!

See here: http://ia600300.us.archive.org/23/items/coronationdurbar030742mbp/coronationdurbar030742mbp.pdf

Sorry-don't know how to make that URL smaller. Try googling coronation Durbar Delhi 1911. The document is presented as text which I spent ages scrolling through until I realised it was available in other formats - see the left hand side at the top of the web page. I found the PDF file the best to read.

In the miscellaneous section there are details of officers and their relatives attached to the different regiments. The 1st Battalion Seaforth Highlanders are on pg 324 of the document (pg 334 of the PDF file). Sadly there is no Macleod present.

The last pages of the document give an index of all the names of those mentioned throughout the document. Rank and file are not included - hardly surprising as there were about 20,000 troops.

Just thought I'd share that as although it doesn't tell us anything new it might lead to some inspired thoughts.................................hopefully................... anybody? ...............once you've read the 404 pages of course!

Julie

No problem Evelyn, I think we all wish we could help you more but Diane is not co-operating! We understand how much you are tied up at the moment and will just keep plodding on down various paths :-D



I sent a message to the link kindly provided by Woody, so am just waiting for a reply.


Please folks, feel free to try any avenues you think of.....just come back and keep us posted ...........thanks. :-D :-D

Thank you Cynthia.
Taking Ron out for a drive this morning, must try to cheer him up, its very difficult though.
Beautiful sunny day here in the island just like spring.
Diane is still winning at hide and seek.
I wonder who will be the one to find her??
Love to you all and thanks for your help and understanding
Evelyn XX <3

My contact for the Nicolson Institute is giving it another shot! I have told him that we doubt that Diane was her real name but we will see what we will see.




I'm still waiting for the wills to arrive.........sigh.


At a bit of a standstill at the moment. That quiet week I was hoping for didn't quite materialize!