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other couple so were they sisters?
Name: Hubert E Mearing
Spouse Doris Clark
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1929
Registration district: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1064

The Smithson's marriage
Name: Alice Clark
Spouse Frederick R Smithson
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Epsom
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 77

Hi Cynthia
Do we have names for the Kirby family at Khartoum Road?
Thanks
Julie

You need to get that cough checked Fans :-P

A member on here discovered that ‘Diane’ worked at Springfield Hospital in London from 1927-1928. see p.32. Where was she before that?
Cough cough Cynthia...
2 days worth of hassling the Head of Personnel by phone at Springfield hosp gave me the dates she worked there from and her name on their file ,but nothing else was on it they said..

Dates she worked there were
7-6-1927 to 19-6-1928.

Laying more concrete tomorrow for the base of my conservtory so still hard at it....But I am still checking in to try and keep up with things... :-D

Here is my synosis once again - I didn't realise that it had fallen so many pages back! I have inserted page numbers to help people check back on details.


This search has been going on for over two years now and it still remains a mystery. Here is a brief summary of what we have so far: (As this is really FBG's baby, she has verified this info )


DIANE LESLIE MacLEOD born cJune 1906-8 India?


No verification of this birth can be found whatsoever. Searches have been
made of Indian, Scottish and English births by many people but to no avail as yet.


Possibilities: This is not her real name.
DIANE: Searches have been made under: Donaldina, Dolinda, Dolina etc.


LESLIE: She was very attached to her middle name of Leslie and insisted it was spelt that way. She gave the name to one of her sons. Some searches have been made re this name. More may need to be done.


MacLEOD : On her marriage certificate (1929 in London), she states her
father to be Major Robert MacLeod of the 1st Seaforth Highlanders, Deceased. Nothing of him can be confirmed despite extensive military searches being made. These can be found on ps 2-4 and 14-15 – 29 and 36 of this thread.


Her family were told that she went to live on Stornoway with ‘Aunt Kate and
cousins Donald & Ishbel (Isabelle)’. This family has been researched as probably the family of Rev. Donald MacLeod who was the minister of the church in Tarbat. The present Incumbent of that church has been contacted and was most helpful.


The family consisted of:
Donald Smith MacLeod 1854 -1930 in Roseneath, Dumbarton.
Kate Isles Wylie 1864 - 1935 (Widow) in Roseneath,
Jean Annabella 1888 - ?
Katherine Mary 1890 - ? Married Archibald K. MacLean.
Donald Stanley 1890 – Lieut. RN.
Murdo 1891 - Wounded at Gallipoli
Lizzie Isles 1893 – Married a McMurchie
Hector Ian 1895 – 1916 Killed in Action
Ishbel 1896 – 1976 in Inverness. Married a Grieve
Barabel 1898 – 1923 in Cornwall
Norman 1900 – Wounded in France 1918
Margaret 1900 - ????
Roderick Callum 1902 - ?


More needs to be done on Margaret and Roderick. Margaret was still at home on the 1911. Where did Donald jnr go? Various agencies in Tarbat have been contacted re this family and Diane but nothing found.


It was hoped we had a lead to Jean Annabella but…….? See this link for further info

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273853


Barabel, who was a Seed Analyst, for the Board of Agriculture, died at the
age of 25 in Cornwall. FBG discovered a family by the name of Bolitho one of whom married a MacLeod from Ross-shire. See p. 44 of this thread for more details.


Diane stated that she went to school in Stornoway. The most likely school
would be the Nicolson Institute. A search has been made for her under D.L.M but there is no sign of her under that name. An enquiry at other local schools may be helpful, maybe looking for a child with the Minister’s address rather than a Diane L. M.


There is no sign of her under DLM on the 1911 Scottish census see p.41


A member on here discovered that ‘Diane’ worked at Springfield Hospital in London from 1927-1928. see p.32. Where was she before that?


In 1929 she married, as Diane Leslie MacLeod, a Herbert R.J. Roy in London. Up until her marriage, she received a private allowance, source unknown.


The address given on her marriage certificate is 53 Khartoum Road, Wandsworth, London. The Electoral Roll for 1929 shows the family living at that address were named Kirby. There is no sign of Diane anywhere in Khartoum Road . She may just have been boarding there for a short time prior to her marriage.


Our Evelyn was born in 1932 at 44 Dafforne Road, Wandsworth and, at least, Diane and her husband show up there on the Electoral Roll. The voters listed at 44 Dafforne Road in 1932 are:

Evelyn Gertrude Goddard-Fenwick Herbert Robert John Roy, Diane Leslie Roy, Kathleen McDowell. The voters listed at the same address in 1931, in case it is of relevance, are Frederick Robert Smithson, Alice Smithson, Edward Hubert Mearing, Doris Mearing, and Kathleen McDowell, and in 1933, Evelyn Gertrude Savile Goddard-Fenwick, Emily Goddard-Fenwick, and Kathleen McDowell. Was this a rental property?



Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick is whom our Evelyn is named after and was her
Godmother. See ps. 22-23 of this thread for more details.


Various living Goddard-Fenwick’s have been contacted but to no avail. You can pm me for details on that.


So this is where the search is up to so far and many members have taken Evelyn and her search to their hearts. *****


If anyone feels they would like to tackle any of the unresolved issues or
re-check anything that has already been done….please do so. It may be that something has been missed or new information is available. Any new info can be added on here.


Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could solve this for Evelyn? Cx



**** A couple of things have been investigated since I did this synopsis, so pages 46 onwards need to be checked. I will add more page numbers to help when I get a mo.




:-D

Hi Woody

Happy hunting on Wednesday .

I just can't find census for John McLeod bc 1884 to parents john and Catherine McDonald .

They married 19 Oct 1883 in wick
He was 21 a mason f John a labourer m Margaret Harper
She was 21 f John McDonald labourer m Margaret Sutherland

Kathy ( Redmoss on the other site )

I havent Jan but dont know if anyone else has

Has anyone actually been able to go to
London Metropolitan Archives: City of London and look at all the hospital records?

Not sure of date of Mothers birthday but pretty sure the month was June, she used to change the date sometimes she said it was 2nd other times it was 6th, so your guess is as good as mine.
Viv found out that Diane did work at Springfield and yes we know it was a mental hospital.
I just wish I could think of some little thing that would give us that Eureka moment but in the meantime thank you all for your interest and help
Evelyn <3

Do we know the date Diane celebrated as her birthday?

Hate to ask this question, but have just realised that Springfield Hospital was & still is, a psychiatric unit.
In view of Diana´s reluctance to discuss her background, is there any chance she could have been a patient rather than a nurse??

Evelyn.
Bet you´ll be glad when we find her, not least so that people stop asking questions that you can´t answer.
Make sure you have a snooze when Ron drops off.
S*d the housework.

Marion

Hello Everyone,
Yes mother had a slight Scottish accent not a broad accent but a very refined type of speech.
I dont know if mother was a qualified nurse and dont know how to check that.
She never mentioned any siblings like she never mentioned her mother.
Only tales she ever told of childhood involved cousins Donald and Ishbel, she often mentioned peat bogs so think they must have been close to home.
Had a restless night with Ron and feel I could sleep on a clothes line right now, dont think a lot of housework will get done today.
Love to everyone
Evelyn XX <3 <3

I've had another look at the MacLeod/Christie connection based on Kathy's info.

I can't find a death in Scotland for the Diana MacLeod b. in 1911.
In 1922 her mother Helen (Nellie) died; widower John MacLeod (a Cooper) was the informant.
In 1921 Nellie's mother Diana Christie m.s.Hay died; son Robert was the informant.
In 1901 Leslie Christie died; son Robert informant.
In 1911 Robert Christie's son Leslie Christie drowned aged only 9 years.

In 1922, this Diana would have only been 11 when her mum died - maybe she was sent to stay with her father's people?
Just surmising that this was the right Diana, she'd have been 18 in 1929. In Scotland she wouldn't have needed parental permission to marry, but what about England? Would she need someone's permission? Might have been easier to make herself a little older and "kill" off the father?

I'm going to Gros on Wednesday so will look for John's death and also at the 1911 census for the rest of the family. I'll also have a look to see if this Diana had any siblings.
I'll also see if I can trace John's birth etc.

By the way, if it was this Diana... the Wick accent is every bit as distinctive as the Stornoway accent, but it's also very different. The mind boggles at a combination of the two!

Need to go as I'm looking after my grandson and we need to do a jigsaw!

It would be useful to know if your Mum had a Scottish accent Evelyn.
Having supposedly lived in Scotland & having 2 Scottish?? parents you would expect at least a trace.
Also, was she an only child as far as you know.
I wondered whether she was a nurse with either the Red Cross or St John Ambulance as you seem to think she wasn´t a qualified nurse.I think they were used as assistants in hospitals before the advent of the NHS (as, of course, were nuns.)

Hello all!

If Fans is intrigued then who am I to interfere???


:-D :-D


She is much better at assessing census things than I am.


Thanks for all thoughts..........

Morning all! This has indeed been a busy thread!

As you have now discovered, Tarbat is the wrong side of Scotland so the good Reverend is very unlikely to be your man. Besides, a "dog-collar" in the family would have been talked about, I'd have thought.

The Gaelic name for Isobel/la sounds like Ishbel but registrars would not use Gaelic names so you are right to discard the "h".

I've had absolutely no joy with the Seaforth side of things. There's photos of some officers at Fort George but not your guy. That said, I'm really doubtful that he was ever a Major as I think there would have been a story or two.

Did she ever mention WW1 I wonder? In 1919 the Iolaire sank off Lewis and there was scarcely a household on the Island unaffected.
My mother was im Stornoway hospital two years ago and a lady in her ward had been just a toddler in 1919, but even so she spoke of it as it had such a profound effect on her family.

Anyway, if you need any more Scottish stuff looked at, let me know before Tuesday and I'll check it out Wednesday.

As you've discovered, MacLeods on Lewis are rather plentiful so it's a case of getting the right family with a Kate or Catherine as the matriarch.
It may be an idea to contact the local radio station. If you decide to do that let me know as I have a coniact in Inverness who may know the best person to talk to. He's very much involved with Gaelic programmes but has more to do with Skye rather than the Outer Hebrides.

Today I'll re-read (maybe several times!) all the relevant info and take notes!
I can't remember if Diane spoke Gaelic or had an accent. Believe me, if she spent any time in Stornoway, she'd have an accent :-)

interesting 1911 census says 8 children all living.
1901 same family but some different names for children? EDIT looks like they used 1st and middle names


Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Fenwick 30
Rachel Fenwick 30
Reginald Fenwick 8
Alice Fenwick 6
Elisabeth Fenwick 4
Amy Fenwick 2
May Fenwick 1

any relation to the Fenwicks?
1911

Parish: Wandsworth Borough Enum. District: 77
Address: 124 Mellison Road Tooting SW
County: London


FENWICK, Peter Thomas Head Married M 39 1872 Bricklayer Sussex Hastings
FENWICK, Rachel Wife Married
19 years F 39 1872 Sandhurst Kent
FENWICK, Reginald Son Single M 18 1893 Milk Vendor Sandhurst Kent
FENWICK, Mabel Daughter Single F 16 1895 Boxmaker Sussex Hastings
FENWICK, Edith Daughter Single F 14 1897 Sussex Hastings
, Violet Daughter F 12 1899 School Sussex Hastings
, Beatrice Daughter F 11 1900 School Sussex Hastings
, Grace Daughter F 6 1905 Stratford Essex
, Lillian Daughter F 4 1907 Tooting London
FENWICK, Leslie Son M 3 1908 Tooting London