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Evelyn GF died 1943 in Herefordshire.
She visited Canada, returning Quebec-Plymouth 24.9.1927.

Looking in 'phone books I found a P M Macleod living at 22 Terrapin Rd Tooting from 1927 to 1929.

Terrapin Rd , Dafforne Rd and Khartoum Rd are not that far apart.

They then come up at 435 Princess Gardens Ealing from 1930 to 1932 and then at 152 Princess Gardens in 1933.

I wondered if it was this one :


Name: Patric M Macleod
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Patrick M Macleod
Mother's Name: Jennet F Macleod
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool
Civil parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
County/Island: London
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Piece: 486
Folio: 170
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick M Macleod 57 b Scotland
Jennet F Macleod 56 bScotland
Donald Macleod 25 b Liverpool
Patric M Macleod 23 b Liverpool
Jessie S Macleod 14 b Canada
Helen M Sampson 30 b India
Bridget A Odonnell 30 b Ireland

Father is Patrick McFarlane Macleod Presbytarian Minister in Upper Tooting ( died 1907)

Both parents married before. He seems to be Peter on first marriage record:

Marriages June 1871
Cochran  Marion Elizabeth    Woburn  3b 676   
Macleod  Peter McFarlane    Woburn  3b 676   

Then the second marriage:

Marriages Jun 1875   (>99%)
Macleod  Patrick McFarian    Birkenhead  8a 722   
Macleod  Patrick McFarlan    Birkenhead  8a 722
Simpson  Janet Fullarton    Birkenhead  8a 722   


Jessie Shannon Macleod was born in Canada. The family were in Canada at the time of the England 1881 and 1891 census, returning just in time for the 1901 census above. Jessie married 1906 Wandsworth to Sydney Bellamy Harman. She can be found in 1911 under the name Jean Shannon Harman living Amersham Bucks.

Helen M Simpson was the daughter of Jennet's first marriage. Born in India.
I think that in 1911 she is with step brother Donald and another Jessie but I got a bit muddled on the free search!

Can't find Patrick junior in 1911. He seems to have died in 1944:

Deaths Jun 1944   (>99%)
MacLeod  Patrick M  66  Brentford  3a 323   

Did a bit of googling and found some family stories. There is a suggestion that Jessie was 'flighty' whatever that might mean! It's conceivable that she may have had a child before marrying Sydney.

http://frederickharman.tripod.com/id185.html

There is an article suggesting PFM had a daughter by his first marriage and that he came from Gourock ( so nowhere near Inverness or Stornaway )

http://web.uvic.ca/vv/student/st_andrews/mcleod.php

So there are connections with Canada, India & Tooting and with the church but nothing Military and seemingly not connected to the right area of Scotland which is why I put it aside initially.

Julie

See our Cynthia is very much on the ball.
More power cuts here in the island again this evening, honest I have paid the electric bill.
Thank all of you for your continued support on this thread I really appreciate your help and interest

Hi Ann, Yes, we know when she died but can't remember off hand. I hope to be getting round to sending for it as soon as I get my act together.

Do we know when Evelyn GF died? Might be worth getting her will, if she left one

I wish I knew the conection between my mother and Evelyn G.F., I only know that she was my godmother, I dont recall ever meeting her though I must have done at some stage, maybe only as a baby

would these army lists have been checked somewhere without buying these
http://youroldbooksandmaps.co.uk/seaforth-highlanders-ross-shire-buffs-the-duke-of-albanys-ww1.html


wonder if it would be worth getting in touch with Stuart
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=141737

What do you reckon the cat fancier did?
Can only assume she bred pedigree cats.
Wouldn´t have thought she would make much of a living fron that, much as I love them.
Perhaps she didn´t need to.

Gwendolen became a nun I think wisechild. It's mentioned a few pages back. Nuns galore it seems!! Her brother William, was a missionary student.....so, quite a religious family.

Buddleigh Salterton is where Christophine Fenwick was born.
Christophine jnr was born Leamington Spa, William, Evelyn Emily & George were all born Jersey,& there was a Gwendolen aged 4 months on the 1881 census, b Soke Damerel where the family were living, but haven´t found her after that.
Christophine was a widow by that point & she died 30.11.1905. Admin of her will was to Christophine jnr (spinster) & her estate was 957.8s.6d.
I was intrigued to see in 1901 Kennington, Lambeth that Emily´s occupation was Cat Fancier!!!!. The mind boggles.
Christophine snr was b in Devon abt 1850 but her parents Emily Lucinda Busfield Ferrand & Christopher Cresswell Fenwick were married 2nd quarter 1840 in Keighly Yorkshire.
No links to the MacLeods there then.

Thanks Chris.....anyone can throw anything into the pot at any time.....it's a complete stew at times and, who knows, just a smidgeon of information could turn it into a feast!


It sounds as though Diane had a good education if she spoke well and had an extensive vocabulary.


Evelyn, when Ron has a sleep today, why don't you go and have a lie down too! It won't help things if you get over-tired......my mum used to say 'you'll be neither use nor ornament'! :-D

Thanks for that Chris, whoever taught Diane did a good job, she spoke beautifully and had a very extensive vocabulary. Seems to me she wasted her life as with the vivid imagination that she had she could have earned a fortune as a novelist

Hello my friends just to let you know Mum didnt work once the children were born so doubt that she worked after 1930,Ian was born Dec 1930.
I am feeling knackered, Ron hardly slept last night which means that I dont either, I expect Ron will sleep all day in his chair though I think I will try to keep him awake then maybe just maybe he will sleep tonight.
Thank you all for all your help on this thread it means so much to me.
Love to you all
Evelyn X <3 <3 <3

(can I just throw the below in the pot!, in case she taught the Macleod gang, lol)

Teachers' Registrations (Find My Past)

Macleod Donaldina (Training in Teaching, Aberdeen)
1909-10 Assistant Mistress Back Public School, Stornoway. (Infants)
1910-1912 (as above)
1912-1916 Assistant Mistress Nicholson Institute, Stornoway.
1917-1918 Unattached Staff Surrey Education Committee
1918-1919 Assistant Mistress Collegiate School Reading
1919-1920 Upper Basildon School Reading
1921-1929 Barnes Green Central School Barnes SW
1929- Head Mistress Thursley C E School Godalming (Death 1968, 80yrs)

also an Evelyn Macleod, (Training, Clapham High School, Training College)
1913-1921 Assistant Mistress Surbiton High School Surrey
1925- Private Teacher
(home address for 1921, Chilbolton, Hants.) (Death 1937, 50yrs)

Chris :)

I'm pretty sure that was the right Kathleen Julie. I'm also pretty certain that it wasn't a co-incidence that Diane ended up at that address in Wandsworth.


The G-F family history is quite interesting and I vaguely mapped it out a few weeks ago - Christophine's husband, George Goddard was a Paymaster in the RN.

Budleigh Salterton comes into it somewhere as does Canada, Jersey, Stoke Damorel and Keighley!! They certainly got around.


But.......what is the missing link???????


:-S :-S

Unless Diane worked after her marriage, she wouldn´t have had an NI number. They weren´t issued until 1948 when the welfare state started.
What struck me as odd about the Goddard Fenwick name was that it was the continental way rather than the English one, i.e. the father´s surname first, followed by the mothers, whereas normally it would be the mother´s surname first then the father´s so that the children would have been Goddard .

I have just been reading the Australian service record for Murdo Macleod
he joined up in 1915

He had previously served for 5years with the 3rd Seaforth Highlanders at Fort George

I have also been trawling 'phone books and directories 1924-1938 to see which Macleod's were living in the Tooting area. One looked a good poss but then I dismissed it. Will post details tomorrow -too tired now!

Julie

And toes...........

Jan I too thought that Kathleen McDowell may have been the one at Dafforne Rd. First found her in 1911 then tracked her family back. Kathleen was born Tooting but her mother Janetta/Jenetta nee Blair was born Devonport which has connections to the Goddard Fenwicks. Janetta's parents were Esther and James Blair and he originated from Scotland. He was a Boiler Maker & I wondered if he worked primarily in shipyards because they are in Liverpool, then Pembroke Docks, then Devonport. Will post census details if anyone thinks that would be useful.

I also did a lot of tracking back on the Goddard Fenwicks. Evelyn GF's mother, Christophine Goddard nee Fenwick was the daughter of Emily Fenwick nee Busfeild. Emily's mother was Sarah Ferrand ( after the death of her Busfeild husband she reverted to her maiden name in order to inherit the Ferrand estate.) I've tracked around but so far not found any connections within those families to any Macleod.

Evelyn GF's sisters both became nuns.

Julie

Good night. Fingers crossed!!