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jansmith

jansmith Report 25 Sep 2011 22:37

was London Met. Archives also checked for nurses records?

Contrary Mary

Contrary Mary Report 25 Sep 2011 21:43


I know this is probably a very very long shot.......and may have been checked out already? But there is this one birth, which would put her age as 18 in 1929???

1911 MCLEOD DIANA F WICK /CAITHNESS 043/00 0340


Mary

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 25 Sep 2011 19:30

Will email you again Evelyn.......numpty!


Try not to worry, Ron's bound to have good days and not so good days. <3 <3 <3

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 25 Sep 2011 19:06

No- not giving up! Still looking...........

Evelyn I have PM'd you with a curious birth record. Too recent to post on here.

Julie

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 25 Sep 2011 16:35

Cynthia I have mislaid your e mail address or I would have e mailed Dianes photo to you so you could have put it on the thread to let all these good people know who this search is all about.
Ron is not too good today, or to quote him he is knackered, this is not unusual after chemo, so I wont worry unduly (well I will try not to)
Love to you all
Evelyn <3 <3 <3

wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Sep 2011 16:32

Thanks for the precis Cynthia.
So much easier to refer to that than keep asking questions that have already been dealt with.
As I said to Evelyn earlier, she certainly managed to cover her tracks. Whether it was intentional or not, who knows???
Don´t think anyone will give up now Evelyn. Just keep hoping for a breakthrough.

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 25 Sep 2011 16:25

Anything is possible, any suggestions would be gratefully received.
This sounds like the plot of a Mystery film and I begin to think we will never know the answer.
So many lovely people have put lots of hours to this task and still no solution is found.
I just dont know where to look next

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 25 Sep 2011 16:24

This is my precis from a few pages ago.....it may help clarify a few points...


This search has been going on for over two years now and it still remains a mystery. Here is a brief summary of what we have so far: (As this is really FBG's baby, she has verified this info )


DIANE LESLIE MacLEOD born cJune 1906-8 India?

No verification of this birth can be found whatsoever. Searches have been
made of Indian, Scottish and English births by many people but to no avail as yet.

Possibilities: This is not her real name.
DIANE: Searches have been made under: Donaldina, Dolinda, Dolina etc.


LESLIE: She was very attached to her middle name of Leslie and insisted it was spelt that way. She gave the name to one of her sons. Some searches have been made re this name. More may need to be done.


MacLEOD : On her marriage certificate (1929 in London), she states her
father to be Major Robert MacLeod of the 1st Seaforth Highlanders, Deceased. Nothing of him can be confirmed despite extensive military searches being made. These can be found on ps 2-4 and 14-15 – 29 and 36 of this thread.


Her family were told that she went to live on Stornoway with ‘Aunt Kate and
cousins Donald & Ishbel (Isabelle)’. This family has been researched as probably the family of Rev. Donald MacLeod who was the minister of the church in Tarbat. The present Incumbent of that church has been contacted and was most helpful.

The family consisted of:
Donald Smith MacLeod 1854 -1930 in Roseneath, Dumbarton.
Kate Isles Wylie 1864 - 1935 (Widow) in Roseneath,
Jean Annabella 1888 - ?
Katherine Mary 1890 - ? Married Archibald K. MacLean.
Donald Stanley 1890 – Lieut. RN.
Murdo 1891 - Wounded at Gallipoli
Lizzie Isles 1893 – Married a McMurchie
Hector Ian 1895 – 1916 Killed in Action
Ishbel 1896 – 1976 in Inverness. Married a Grieve
Barabel 1898 – 1923 in Cornwall
Norman 1900 – Wounded in France 1918
Margaret 1900 - ????
Roderick Callum 1902 - ?


More needs to be done on Margaret and Roderick. Margaret was still at home on the 1911. Where did Donald jnr go? Various agencies in Tarbat have been contacted re this family and Diane but nothing found.


It was hoped we had a lead to Jean Annabella but…….? See this link for further info

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273853

Barabel, who was a Seed Analyst, for the Board of Agriculture, died at the
age of 25 in Cornwall. FBG discovered a family by the name of Bolitho one of whom married a MacLeod from Ross-shire. See p. 44 of this thread for more details.

Diane stated that she went to school in Stornoway. The most likely school
would be the Nicolson Institute. A search has been made for her under D.L.M but there is no sign of her under that name. An enquiry at other local schools may be helpful, maybe looking for a child with the Minister’s address rather than a Diane L. M.


There is no sign of her under DLM on the 1911 Scottish census see p.41


A member on here discovered that ‘Diane’ worked at Springfield Hospital in London from 1927-1928. see p.32. Where was she before that?


In 1929 she married, as Diane Leslie MacLeod, a Herbert R.J. Roy in London. Up until her marriage, she received a private allowance, source unknown. The address given on her marriage certificate is 53 Khartoum Road, Wandsworth, London. The Electoral Roll for 1929 shows the family living at that address were named Kirby. There is no sign of Diane anywhere in Khartoum Road . She may just have been boarding there for a short time prior to her marriage.


Evelyn was born in 1932 at 44 Dafforne Road, Wandsworth and, at least, Diane and her husband show up there on the Electoral Roll. The voters listed at 44 Dafforne Road in 1932 are:


Evelyn Gertrude Goddard-Fenwick Herbert Robert John Roy, Diane Leslie Roy, Kathleen McDowell. The voters listed at the same address in 1931, in case it is of relevance, are Frederick Robert Smithson, Alice Smithson, Edward Hubert Mearing, Doris Mearing, and Kathleen McDowell, and in 1933, Evelyn Gertrude Savile Goddard-Fenwick, Emily Goddard-Fenwick, and Kathleen McDowell. Was this a rental property?


Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick is whom our Evelyn is named after and was her
Godmother. See ps. 22-23 of this thread for more details.


Various living Goddard-Fenwick’s have been contacted but to no avail. You can pm me for details on that.


So this is where the search is up to so far and many members have taken Evelyn and her search to their hearts.


If anyone feels they would like to tackle any of the unresolved issues or
re-check anything that has already been done….please do so. It may be that something has been missed or new information is available. Any new info can be added on here.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could solve this for Evelyn? Cx


wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Sep 2011 16:12

That is strange Evelyn because normally any sort of maintenance or army pension would have ceased when she was 21.
That brings me back to the suggestion I made yesterday that she was possibly younger than she said she was & she stretched the truth when she got married, so that she didn´t need parental consent.
As far as the income is concerned, either the Regiment if it was from her father, or a solicitor must have been involved & it was paid with the proviso that it ceased when she married or reached 21, whichever happened first. Sometimes, particularly with women, the provision didn´t end until they were 30, but that was usually where they were recieving an income from a bequest & recieved the lump sum at a particular age.
Do you think it´s possible.......silly question because anything is.... that she met Robert Macleod when she was nursing. maybe he was a patient.
I probably shouldn´t say this after all of everyone´s hard work, but I´m beginning to wonder whether Aunt Kate in Stornaway is a blind alley & you should be concentating your search in England.
This really must be the ultimate exercise in thinking outside the box.

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 25 Sep 2011 15:53

I have always been puzzled by the fact that Grandma Roy always said that up until the time mother married that she received a private income, from where or how it was paid grandma never knew. Was this the Lord of the Manor paying for his misdeeds I wonder??????

wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Sep 2011 15:48

Foiled again!!!!
She certainly managed to cover her tracks didn´t she.

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 25 Sep 2011 15:40

No Wisechild I do not know Aunt Kates surname, we only surmissed it to be Macleod, it could be anything, I only ever heard mother refer to her as Aunt Kate.
The witnesses on parents marriage cert were his mother and a friend of his who I believe died soon after the marriage, I never knew him

wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Sep 2011 15:24

What about a crystal ball or a clairvoyant?
Do we know that Aunt Kate was a Macloud & not a Leslie.
Any clues from the withesses on the marriage cert.?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 25 Sep 2011 15:14

The nursing info was checked further back on the thread when it was discovered that Diane worked at Springfield Hospital. No great clues there unfortunately.


I think Fans has checked every military Robert MacLeod she could lay her hands on - even going as far as ordering a death cert for one of them - again, no joy!


The 1921 census would be SUCH a bonus at the moment!


Cx.



Evelyn

Evelyn Report 25 Sep 2011 11:03

Quoy now has Dianes photo.
Wise there are far too many Macleods but never the correct one.
I am quite happy for Quoy to publish the photo
Love to All
Evelyn

wisechild

wisechild Report 25 Sep 2011 08:22

Has anybody tracked down Robert Angus Hugh McLeod in the WW1 service records on Ancestry.
Nothing so grand as Diane says, but in 1918 he was living 34 Coverdale Road, Shepherds Bush & was a reservist with the London Scottish regiment.
Unfortunately no next of kin details.
Also found Robert MacLeod 3rd Batt Seaforth highlanders 4164 in the medals list 1899-1904 Gibralter,Egypt, Malta.
I´m sure someone will already have looked at this, but it seems that half of the battalion was called Macleod.

Quoy

Quoy Report 25 Sep 2011 07:16

Thanks Evelyn
are you still that cute

jansmith

jansmith Report 24 Sep 2011 21:52

Has this area been checked for any nursing info

www.rcn.org.uk/development/rcn_archives/research_advice_-_tracing_nurses/nursing_records

from the above site

Locations of Registers and Rolls

GNC England and Wales at the National Archives, Kew, Richmond-upon-Thames. Register of Nurses and supplementary registers 1921-1973: reference DT10

or Scotland
GNC Scotland at the National Archives of Scotland, Edinburgh. Register of Nurses 1921-1983; Roll of Nurses 1944-1983; Register of Health Visitors 1933-1983: reference GNC

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 24 Sep 2011 20:30

No worries Evelyn. If you want to send me a photo to my private email address, I will put it on the GR homepage photo bit - if that's okay with you of course.

<3

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 24 Sep 2011 19:58

Cynthia I dont know how to do that