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Evelyn

Evelyn Report 14 Aug 2011 16:20

No offence taken wisechild, any suggestion is gratefully received.
I really think she was never D L M.
I always thought it very strange that she never mentioned her mother,I wonder if she died in childbirth??. I know mother told lots of fibs as I stood many times and listened while she told people things that I knew to be untrue, most times quite unnesscessary lies, she just seemed to thrive on lies. In my opinion she should have written books as she had a wonderful imagination.
Thank you so much for your interest and help I appreciate it
Kind regards
Evelyn

wisechild

wisechild Report 14 Aug 2011 16:09

Just a thought Evelyn.
No intention to offend. Obviously you know your family better than I do.
Seems like everyone is clutching at any clue they can think of.
Hopefully you´ll get there eventually.

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 14 Aug 2011 16:05

Diane died in July 1952 in Weymouth so could not have been this Donaldina who lived quite a lot longer.
Dianes death was registered by my father, HRJ Roy

I honestly believe mothers name was one she chose for herself otherwise surely she would have been traced by someone after all the searching that has been done, she married in the name Diane Leslie Macleod as I have the marriage cert

wisechild

wisechild Report 14 Aug 2011 12:35

Just seen Jansmith´s post.
Do you think she was Donaldina?
I wouldn´t fancy going through life with a name like that & Diane is not so far removed. Neither is a bit of poetic license with her age.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 14 Aug 2011 09:43

Thanks for all that.....will check back tonight......flying visit~~~~~~~~~~

jansmith

jansmith Report 14 Aug 2011 06:16

have you got this possible link if so i will delete it
Robert Macleod
also known as Rob Mhurchaidh an t-Saoir
BK reference 1703
born 1852
child of… Margaret Macdonald (born: 1819)
Murdo Macleod (born: 1813)
date of death 1948 January 09
date of marriage 1890 June 17
information obtained from… Gleanings: The Genealogy of Kinloch, Isle of Lewis and History of the Area
lived in… 10 Balallan / 10 Baile Ailein (parental and marital home)
married… Mary Ann Nicolson (born: 1871 October 21) (at Balallan)
parent of… Alexander Macleod (born: 1907 March 01)
Annabella Macleod (born: 1909 August 07)
Catherine Macleod (born: 1894 April 30)
Donald Macleod (born: 1900 September 25)
Donaldina Macleod (born: 1902 December 29)
Isabella Macleod (born: 1904 December 23)
Kenneth Macleod (born: 1896 September 09)
Margaret Macleod (born: 1899 April 09)
Murdo John Macleod (born: 1911 November 13)
Rev Murdo Macleod (born: 1892 July 09)
Robert Macleod (born: 1916 June 16)
Unknown Macleod (born: 1891 April 09)
sex Male

http://www.hebrideanconnections.com/Details.aspx?subjectid=44188&relationship=child~of%E2%80%A6&caller=44339

jansmith

jansmith Report 14 Aug 2011 06:06

http://www.ceuig.com/history/church-and-school/school-record-locations

has anyone been in touch with Uig museum?


also this site
http://www.hebrideanconnections.com

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 13 Aug 2011 23:58

Thanks Jan. So was she a nun I wonder?????
Julie

Edit- just in case anyone's wondering what it was:

ST VINCENT'S HOME FOR ROMAN CATHOLIC CRIPPLED BOYS (SPECIAL INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL, EASTCOTE, PINNER, MIDDLESEX.
Certified 14th April 1910 when at Clarence Road, Clapham Park, London.  Re-certified at Eastcote 1912.
Later called Orthopaedic Hospital which closed in 1934.

jansmith

jansmith Report 13 Aug 2011 23:40

Reg. District: Wandsworth Sub District: Clapham
Parish: Wandsworth Borough Enum. District: 21
Address: St Vincents Clarence Road Clapham Park S W
County: London

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HUGHES, Philomena Head Single F 45 1866 Sister Of Charity Cheshire Orewe
GORDON, Hilda Single F 46 1865 Sister Of Charity Clifton Somerset
LYONS, Laura Single F 42 1869 Sister Of Charity Philsborough Dublin
GODDARD, Gwendolen Single F 30 1881 Sister Of Charity Devonport Devonshire
HARDING, Ellen Single F 28 1883 Sister Of Charity Clare Clare Castle
SCARWELL, Katharine Single F 40 1871 Sister Of Charity Cork
O BREIN, Mary Single F 40 1871 Sister Of Charity Limerick Bynes
CASSIDY, Katharine Single F 42 1869 Sister Of Charity Lancashire Appleton
BURSTOW, Agnes Single F 29 1882 Nurse Sick Cheshire Tarfisley
LERMOX, Florence Single F 22 1889 Probationer Nurse Sick Movernesshire Beauty
WISTED, Mary Single F 18 1893 Probationer Nurse Sick Kerry Castle Gregory
BRIGLEY, Elizabeth Single F 19 1892 Probationer Nurse Sick Cork Sheffield
MONEY, Kathleen Single F 18 1893 Probationer Nurse Sick Tipperan Clonmel
BERRINGTON, Rose Single F 18 1893 Servant General Warwickshire Birmingham
O BRIEN, Mary Single F 21 1890 Servant Laundrymaid Lancashire Liverpool
Have now taken off other names to make it easier to read and shorten the reply!

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 13 Aug 2011 23:27

And before she married a Goddard, Christophine Fenwick was in Sussex (1851) and Hampshire (1861). I too have have been wandering amongst the G F s! In 1881 there is Gwendolen with the rest of the family:

Name: Christophine Goddard
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Budleigh Salterton, Devon, England
Civil parish: Stoke Damerel
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Home Park Villas
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Wife Of Paymaster R N
Registration district: Stoke Damerel
Sub-registration district: Stoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 1

Piece: 2211
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Christophine Goddard 37
Christophine F. Goddard 11
William H. Goddard 7
Evelyn G. Goddard 6
Emily F. Goddard 4
George D. Goddard 1
Gwendolen Goddard  
Ada Wheeler 19
Margaret Johnson 49
Jessie Smale 18
Mary Adams 14

In 1901 she is working as a probationer nurse at the Bradford Union workhouse ( she might have nursed my Great Grandmother who had a child there in Dec 1900 and died of TB there in 1902!):

1901 England Census about Gwendolen Frances Fenwick Goddard
Name: Gwendolen Frances Fenwick Goddard
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Officer
Gender: Female
Where born: Devenport, Devon, England
Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Horton All Saints
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Horton
ED, institution, or vessel: Bradford Union

Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 4170
Folio: 151
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Gwendolen Frances Fenwick Goddard 20

Think I've found her in 1911 but can't view full details so if someone with a sub could look ..............there's a mixed bunch of people there so maybe some sort of institution?

Ta


Household GODDARD, Gwendolen 1881 30  F Wandsworth London


Julie

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 13 Aug 2011 17:24

Oh mother why couldnt you tell the truth.
Who the heck were you and WHAT was your real name??????
Thank you everyone for your help, I am very grateful to you

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 Aug 2011 16:56

Thanks for your input both of you. Welcome aboard!

It's quite a story isn't it ?

I too think the Fenwicks are involved somewhere but FBG isn't so sure. There has been a thought about Evelyn FG's Will and it's possible it may be sent for.

It's look pretty definite that Diane wasn't her real name....but what was.....? sigh....

I have been mapping out the Goddard/Fenwicks and they are a very nomadic bunch..........Canada, Jersey, London, Warwickshire, Devon....you name - they lived there! Just hoping to spot something which will give a glimmer of light........


We press on....... :-D

wisechild

wisechild Report 13 Aug 2011 15:49

Like Sally. I haven´t had any input in this before, but without wishing to rush in where I know nothing, has anybody found a will for Evelyn Fenwick Goddard. If Diane´s income was coming from her, Diane might be named in the will.
Personally....& it´s just a feeling....I don´t think Diane was her real name.

Sally

Sally Report 13 Aug 2011 15:41

hello
i finished readi ng through thread last night and do not have any searching skills

it struck me that grandmother could be amung the fenwicks as diane told so many fibs

( a ) she did not have a scotts acent

( b )she has not been found on any records in scotland

( c ) evelyn was named after her god mother

( d )she had a private income was it paid to diane mum may be a servat to keep her from spilling the beens (it did hapen) and the grangmother died it passed on to diane and the family kept an eye on her

( e ) the fathers name was made up to put everybody off the scent

i am sorry this this ia no help but it is just how i see it

sally w

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Aug 2011 09:02

If I get some spare time today, I think I will wander amongst the G-F's to try and get a clearer picture of them and maybe establish a firmer link to Diane.

All ideas welcome. Gather round.


Maybe I should commandeer my dining room table for the task :-D


Then we can submit any findings to FBG ;-)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Aug 2011 08:54

LK, I remember looking at that link before and yes, it's definitely part of the G-F family. Not sure where it leads though.


If anyone has a Scottish hunch and would like to check some records, I have a few Scotlands People credits left which I am willing to offer. Pm me for details. :-D

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 11 Aug 2011 20:43

People have been really helpful today - thanks everyone.


Glad Fans made it back as she is the backbone of this search.


Yes Choccy, it certainly gets one hooked!


Evelyn, we are thinking of you and doing our best......take care. <3


Quoy

Quoy Report 11 Aug 2011 18:47

could be something or nothing

The Standard (London, England), Thursday, April 24, 1884;

Borthwick Macleod
Apr 22nd St Stephens Parish Church Edinborough by the Rev Norman Macleod DD
Alex Hay Borthwick, Hopsrig,Langholm NB to
Elsie 4th daughter of Alex Macleod Leslie Aberdeenshire

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 11 Aug 2011 17:22

While you lovely people have been beavering away on my behalf I have been at the hospital sitting with my O H whilst he had his chemo, if all goes well he will be allowed home tomorrow, so fingers crossed.They have installed Oxygen at home in case it is needed.
My turn for blood tests tomorrow, wont get the results until Tuesday,I feel
O K, need to be strong to deal with my nursing duties.
Thank you everyone for your interest and help
Big hugs to all of you
Evelyn XX

Renes

Renes Report 11 Aug 2011 14:37

Thanks Fans

was Kenneth related to Robert

and what happened to Robert


Oh Keeper of the McCleod sof Stornoway


Thats me back to the ................................

Bye