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Sallyann

Sallyann Report 9 Sep 2010 23:45

hi, I got a problem, can anybody help me? please
I wish to buy a birth cert but I cannot read the details and nor can gene reunited help people, so has anybody got an idea,
birth records,
jul/aug/sept 1840,
william saunders cannot read middle name, he is the last william on that page, birth reg Berkhampstead, vol; VI page 11?5
I cannot read third number and I think last one is 5, can anyone help me? thank you all, sallyann

jax

jax Report 9 Sep 2010 23:51

Births Sep 1840 (>99%)
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SAUNDERS William Thomas Berkhampstead 6 423
Saunders William Thomas Berkhamstead 6 425


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 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 10 Sep 2010 00:05

There is only one entry transcribed twice, it does look like a 5 for the last number

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:05

hi, are you saying it is vol 6 page 423 of 425
why does it look like it is 4 numbers?
I am newist so I do struggle abit, thanks, sally

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:08

hi, lindsey, that is what I thought, any idea on third one?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Sep 2010 00:10

I think the page number is or 425

What looks like the first number 1 is actually the first stroke of the number 4 which is very faint.

Kath. x

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:14

gosh I may need to buy a few birth cert before I get the right one, so maybe I should try a sibling to get the mothers name.
I have never bought a birth cert for 1840, does it show mothers name?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Sep 2010 00:15

I've changed my last post after looking at the entry again.

Yes, all birth certificates starting at 1837 give the mother's maiden name.

Kath. x

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:18

thanks kathleen, I see what you mean by the number its not 4 numbers but 3, thanks for that

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Sep 2010 00:20

There is a double entry at FreeBMD because the transcription has been corrected but the incorrect one hasn't been removed yet. FreeBMD would have double-checked before making the correction.

The images are clearer at Ancestry than at FreeBMD. (I don't know about GenesReunited, but Sallyann, for heaven's sake, don't use this site as your primary resource for BMDs when FreeBMD has them indexed and searchable!)

Anyhow, of course Ancestry goes to the wrong page ... it's image 21.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8912&path=1840.Q3-Jul-Aug-Sep.S.21

for anybody who wants to try there.

And the last digit is pretty clearly a 5 there.

In any event, if it's unclear, just add a note when you order from the GRO that the page number is questionable because it was unclear.


edit

If you click on the two page numbers at FreeBMD, you see that both 423 and 425 are valid page numbers for that quarter in Berkhampstead. It definitely isn't "1" anything, and it's only three digits.

I might have thought 435, but an exact search at Ancestry for births in Q3 1840 in Berkhampstead, volume 6, page 435, produces nil results.

So 425 it must be.

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:24

ok, thank-you Janey I will do that, so it is 425? thank you everyone

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:27

thanks, thanks, thanks

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 10 Sep 2010 00:37

Order it from the Berhampstead Register Office and you won't need the GRO reference at all.

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:40

ok, madmeg, I will look into that, is it the same price?

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 10 Sep 2010 00:42

ok, madmeg, will do that.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 10 Sep 2010 01:27

several trees on ancestry give these as parents



John Saunders
1812 – 1883

Sarah Pearman
1809 – 1865



1833
24 Nov
Age: 21
Marriage to Sarah Pearman
Ippollitts, Hertfordshire, England

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Sep 2010 01:41

Madmeg ... a day late and a dollar short!

Well, an hour late, anyhow. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Sep 2010 01:45

And then there's the good old IGI ...

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/individual_record.asp


WILLIAM THOMAS SANDERS
Birth: 29 JUL 1840
Christening: 06 SEP 1840 Great Berkhampstead, Hertford, England
Father: JOHN SANDERS
Mother: SARAH
Batch No.: C008074


Lost sight of the forest for the trees, I did.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Sep 2010 01:48

Conflicting info

JOHN SAUNDERS
Spouse: SARAH PEARMAN
Marriage: 24 NOV 1833 Ippollitts, Hertford, England
Batch No.: M072531

JOHN SAUNDERS
Spouse: SARAH PEARMAN
Marriage: 01 DEC 1833 Offley, Hertford, England
Batch No.: M048771


We had one already today that was a CofE wedding followed two days later by an RC wedding (or vice versa) -- could this be another one?

Hugh Wallis doesn't specify churches in the parish batch number listings:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/
CountyHertford.htm#PageTitle


http://www.joinermarriageindex.com/pjoiner/genuki/HRT/Ippollitts/index.html

http://www.joinermarriageindex.com/pjoiner/genuki/HRT/Offley/index.html

Sallyann

Sallyann Report 11 Sep 2010 14:16

I understand that williams parents are john and sarsh but her maiden name is Foster, and that william born1840 in the Star and Garter beer house, great berkhampsted, herts, anyone have anything on that