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Hi,
Can anyone help me to discover who were the parents of Mary Ann Allsop( b: 11 Nov 1895 @ Worksop, Notts) what were thier ages and where did they orginate from?

Alan

1911 census

ALLSOP, GEORGE HEAD MARRIED M 48 COAL MINER HEWER HUTHWAITE NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
ALLSOP, ELIZABETH WIFE MARRIED 22 F 41 SELSTON NOTTINGHAMSHIRE
ALLSOP, WILLIAM SON SINGLE M 18 COAL MINER BELOW GROUND HUTHWAITE NOTTS
ALLSOP, MARY DAUGHTER SINGLE F 16 HOSIERY EMBROIDERER HUTHWAITE NOTTS
ALLSOP, GEORGE SON M 14 COAL MINER BELOWGROUND HUTHWAITE NOTTS
ALLSOP, MABEL DAUGHTER F 12 SCHOOL HUTHWAITE NOTTS
ALLSOP, HAROLD SON SINGLE M 10 SCHOOL HUTHWAITE NOTTS
ALLSOP, CORAL DAUGHTER F 8 HUTHWAITE NOTTS
ALLSOP, DONALD SON M 6 HUTHWAITE NOTTS

For info
There is a tree on ancestry as follows
Mary Annie Allsop born 1895 Nottinghamshire
Died 1959
Parents George Barnes Allsop and Mary Elizabeth Holland

If this is Coral's birth, the cert would confirm parents and give mother's maiden name



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Births Mar 1903

Allsop Corallina Christine - Mansfield 7b 128

Possible birth registration

Name: Mary Ann Allsop
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Worksop
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 7b
Page: 32 (click to see others on page)


Birth certificate will give parents names and so would be able to confirm or refute the information found above

Marriages Jun 1888 *

***************Allsop George Mansfield 7b 152
**************Holland Mary Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 152
Marriott William Mansfield 7b 152
Sissons Matilda Maria Mansfield 7b 152

Thanks to everyone, Mary Ann was definately born Worksop, 11 Nov 1895 and died in Sheffield in 1985.
I expect I will have to get a birth cert as there dont seem any other way of getting the info on her parents.

regards

Alan

I have sent away for the birth Cert, but I am really mistified, I have spent two whole days searching, one would have thought that there would be some trace of her and her parents somewhere. Is it possible that she was placed in a institute for having a child out of wedlock or something simular? what other reasons would there be for not having any trace of her imediate family? what about working for the Defence ministry? or is that too far stretched? I,d love to hear other peoples views

Alan

hi alan
there is a baptism on my notts disc for mary ann allsop on 11 11 1885 worksop is it possible the year is wrong

There was also Mary ann Allsop reg dec 1895 in Worksop.

Who did your Mary Ann marry?

Maryb

She married Clifford Dunn from Sheffield sometime prior to 1921, this also a mystery as she had a child out of wedlock in 1919 albert and his surname was Hallam???

Clifford Dunn and Mary A Allsop O/N/D 1920 Worksop 7b 108.

I can't find Albert Hallam born 1919.Where was he born?

Maryb

Worksop as far as I know

Do you mean this one ?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Births Jun 1915

Hallam Albert E - Mother Hallam - Worksop 7b 60


Looks like born to an unmarried mother - but not Allsop.

Maybe Mary Ann adopted him later

Adopted, that is a thought.
I got the birth cert today she was born 11/11/1895 at Worksop father name John William Allsop Mother s name Hannah Allsop formerly Oldbury, but so far havent found them on any census, found a possible marriage in 1883 at Nottingham..

Thank everyone

Hannah Oldbury O/N/D 1865 Radford notts 7b 170.
Her mum Elizabeth 1841.Warwickshire dad Edward 1841 leicestershire a coal miner in 1871/1881.

Maryb

hi alan
have found these baptisms albert hallam allsop and edith hallam allsop on 23 12 1891
thomas hallam allsop 26 4 1893
all worksop father a miner of norfolk st to john william and hannah
dont know whether this helps

Albert hallam Allsop 1/12/1891 died 1980 Staincliffe Lancs.

Maryb

It does look like the same family i posted.
1901 27,Norfolk Street worksop.
Edward Oldbury 60 coal miner Leicestershire
Elizabeth 60 Warwickshire
Edward Allsop 1884 North notts grandson Albert Hallam 1892 Worksop Grandson.

1891 27,Norfolk Street Edward Allsop 7 with Edward and Elizabeth Oldbury

Is this connected.
Henry Bernard Hallam married J/F/M 1907 worksop same page there is a Hannah Allsop.

Maryb

By George I think I've cracked it,with the help of sharon of course.

1891 henry Hallam 1865 Notts coal miner
Hannah 1865 New radford.
Henry son 1890 worksop.

1901 Nether hallam Sheffield D43 > 27
164,Whitehouse Lane.
Henry Hallam 1866
Emma says wife 1865 New radford (why Emma I don't know)
Edith 1892
Thomas 1893
Mary ann 1895/6 Worksop
James 1897 worksop
James 1897
Bernard 1899
William one month.

It seems as though Hannah took up with Mr Hallam but didn't get married until 1907.

Maryb

1911 Henry B Hallam and Hannah they are all Hallams including Mary Ann plus 2 more children lilian 1905 and Clarice 1908.
Address 19,Allen Street Worksop.Also there was Albert hallam 1892 who was with the olbury's in 1901.

Says they were married 23 years and 14 children born 5 died.

That would explain the illigitimate son Mary Ann had.