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l am trying to find out about kate daughter of emmanuel lived in elton hunts late 1800s. l know emmanuel was g/son to william who was born in 1800 and died in his eighties
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Allow me. ;)
I found the post when I searched Trying to Find using the surname filter "Barnard", so I'll guess that's it!
This mishmash of old and new systems at this website is just really unacceptable.
People go to "trying to find (surname)" from their personal surnames lists and compose a post, and the surname is pre-entered on their post. Then when it's posted, it appears in Trying to Find with no surname attached.
Conversely, using a surname filter and then posting a Trying to Find message doesn't result in the post appearing in the list when the surname filter is used ...
Just more really bad design and service.
Maybe someone who can help will see this post now ...
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Meanwhile -- it looks like that's the wrong surname anyhow!
The household is Barnard in 1871, but in 1861:
Name: Emmanuel Barnett
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Warrington, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Elton
Ecclesiastical parish: Ely
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Oundle
Sub-registration district: Fotheringhay
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Barnett 22
Emmanuel Barnett 3
John Barnett 23
Mary Barnett 59
William Barnett 61
Same household composition as in 1871:
Eliza Ann Barnard 11 months
Elizabeth Barnard 32
Emmanuel Barnard 13
Hannah Barnard 29
Jesse Barnard 2
Jno Hy Barnard 9
Mary Barnard 69
William Barnard 71
Emmanuel's birth:
Name: Emanuel Barnett
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Oundle
County: Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 206
Barnard is what the original says in 1871, but it seems to be the one in error.
In 1851, the household is:
Butterworth Barnett 5
Elizabeth Barnett 12
Frances Barnett 19
Helena Barnett 21
John Barnett 13
Mary Barnett 48
William Barnett 50
William Barnett 17
Emmanuel appears to be the son of Elizabeth, who was unmarried in all censuses.
This would be Emmanuel's marriage:
Name: Emmanuel Barnett + Margaret Hilliard
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Oundle
County: Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 383
and if, as is likely, it doesn't give a father's name, that is unfortunately probably a dead end.
(The 1871 Barnard household is next door to a Hilliard household, although Margaret isn't in it.)
But in 1891, Emmanuel is Barnard again:
Name: Emmanuel Barnard
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Elton, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: Ringstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Ringstead
Town: Ringstead
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Thrapston
Sub-registration district: Raunds
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur F Barnard 2
Emmanuel Barnard 33
Jesse Barnard 5
Kate Barnard 7/12
Margaret Barnard 29
Albert E Hilliard 12
This looks to be Kate's birth:
Name: Catherine Ellen Barnard
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Thrapston
County: Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 197
... although ... right place, but date is off, per 1891 census.
Oh, for pity's sake. Her age is 7 MOs on the original, not 7 1/2.
So this is her birth:
Name: Kate Barnard
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Oundle
County: Huntingdonshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 217
Now, if Jeffrey ever revisits his thread, we can maybe find out what it was that he wanted to know!
If you're reading, Jeffrey -- my Barnards are from Wiltshire possibly via Bristol and then to Kent and thence back to Wiltshire, over the course of the 19th century, and so not related. But I've seen a household of Barnards (that could be related to mine) - and the same thing with other Barnard households - called "Barnett" in a census, so this name-switching doesn't surprise me.
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