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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Aug 2010 19:27

I am looking for my nans dad named Sydney James Brown born 1909c he had a brother William and a step brother called Percy. He lived in Battersea London I do not know if this was where he was born. His wife was called Kathleen Field. They had 4 sons Terry, Peter, Roy and Leslie and 3 daughters my nan Barbara, jean and Pamela.

I know nothing about him, his wife or his parents I would love it if you could find any info. Thank you.


Sydneys dad is believed to have been a petty officer in the merchant navy.

EDIT -------

Thank you all so much for your help with this. Could you now see if you can delve a little deeper now into Sydney's fathers history.

Charles Brown 1870 found amongst these posts married to Sarah Beatrice Brown. He was a naval officer.

Penny

Penny Report 9 Aug 2010 19:31

you need his marriage cert

Marriages Dec 1931 (>99%)
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Brown Sydney J Field Battersea 1d 924
Field Kathleen E Brown Battersea 1d 924

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 9 Aug 2010 19:33

Hi possible

1911 census

Household information
Address 10 Pearson St Battersea Sw
Parish Battersea
Town Battersea Sw
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 3 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN2205 RG78PN75 RD26 SD2 ED17 SN71
Administrative County London
Registration District Wandsworth
Registration Sub District North West Battersea
Enumeration District 17
Householder 1
Name Charles Brown
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Total Children Born Alive 6
Children Still Living 5
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender M
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Occupation Naval Pensioner
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Battersea Surrey
Householder 2
Name Beatrice Sarah Brown
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender F
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lambeth Surrey
Householder 3
Name Percy Robert Foster Brown
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Occupation Packer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Battersea Surrey
Householder 4
Name Charles Henry Brown
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1899
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Battersea Surrey
Householder 5
Name William Albert Brown
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Battersea Surrey
Householder 6
Name Sydney James Brown
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 6 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Battersea Surrey
Householder 7
Name Sophiam Large
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Occupation Laundress
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Hessle Hull

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 9 Aug 2010 19:40

1901 census

Address 6 Simpson St
Civil Parish Battersea
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Christ Ch
Parliamentary Borough or Division Battersea
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Battersea
Administrative County London
Householder 1
Name Beatrice Brown
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 30
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Lambeth
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Charles Brown
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 2
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Battersea
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Alice Foster
Relation to Head of Family Sister
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 20
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Laundry Woman Wash
Employment Status
Where Born Westminster
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Percy Foster
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Battersea
Language
Infirmity

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Aug 2010 19:43

Thanks 1911 could deffinately be a match, I will check with my nan to see what she thinks

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 9 Aug 2010 19:50

1891 census

Name Percy Foster
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Relationship to Head of Household Grandson
Occupation Juvenile
Address 78, High Street
District Wandsworth, West Battersea
Parish Battersea
Administrative County London
Birth Place Battersea
Birth County London
in house
maria foster head 44 widow
beatrice s daughter 20
alice m daughter 10
percy grandson 2
RG 12 / 430

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 9 Aug 2010 19:55

1881 census

Name Beatrice Foster
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Address 52, Vincent Square
District St George Hanover Square, St John Westminster
Parish St Margaret and St John The Evangelist Westminster
Administrative County Middlesex
Birth Place Lambeth
Birth County Surrey
in house
maria foster head 36 married ( butlers wife )
beatrice s daughter 10
alice m daughter 6 months
etita rendick lodger widow 78
RG 11 / 113

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 9 Aug 2010 20:01

1871 census

Name Beatrice Foster
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Address Mary Street
District Lambeth, Lambeth Church 1st
Parish Lambeth
Administrative County London, Surrey
Birth Place Surrey
Birth County Surrey
in house
maria foster head 26 married ( butlers wife )
beatrice s daughter 6 months
RG 10 / 659

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Aug 2010 20:02

Thanks the marriage cert is deffinately right as kathleens middle name was Eliza so that fits well

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Aug 2010 20:07

I also have that step brother Percy was living in Worcester park in Surrey, when this was I am not sure.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 9 Aug 2010 20:16

Your great grandmother??

Name: Kathleen E Field
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Bennett
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 898

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 9 Aug 2010 20:24

1891 census

Name Charles Brown
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1868
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Sailor
Address 19, Yelverton Road
District Wandsworth, West Battersea
Parish Battersea
Administrative County London
Birth Place Battersea
Birth County London
ann brown head 68 widow
anne daughter 25
charles son 23
phoebe daughter 21
charles brown nephew 1
RG 12 / 430

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Aug 2010 20:31

checked with nan and yes there is another brother Charles Brown so thank you so much this is a great help and much appreciated. Anymore would be lovely also

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 9 Aug 2010 20:32

sister phoebe in 1901 with sister anne

1901 census

Address 1 Blondel Street
Civil Parish Battersea
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Saviour
Parliamentary Borough or Division Battersea
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Battersea
Administrative County London
Householder 1
Name Chas P Brown
Relation to Head of Family Nephew
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Battersea
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Phoebe Brown
Relation to Head of Family Sister
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 29
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Laundry Maid
Employment Status
Where Born London Battersea
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Annie Roberts
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 35
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Battersea
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name John Roberts
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 41
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Builders Laborer
Employment Status
Where Born London Lambeth
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name John C Roberts
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Battersea
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Kathleen V Roberts
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Battersea
Language
Infirmity
Householder 7
Name Phoebe S Roberts
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 5
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born London Battersea
Language
Infirmity

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Aug 2010 21:03

How sure are you of this 1891 census being the same Charles Brown in the others?

As the year of birth has changed from 1870 to 1868 is this the same Charles Brown?

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 9 Aug 2010 21:12

Jonesey -- any info on Kathleens mothers first name I believe Kathleens father to be called John Thomas Field

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 9 Aug 2010 22:10

1911 census for a John Thomas Field who was living in Battersea, Wandsworth:

FIELD, John Thomas Head Married M 31 1880 Railway Engine Stoker London VIEW
FIELD, Annie Wife Married
6 years F 31 1880 Kidderminster VIEW
FIELD, John Edward Son M 5 1906 London Battersea VIEW
FIELD, Albert Henry Son M 3 1908 London Battersea VIEW
FIELD, Leonard James Son M 1 1910 London Battersea VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2179 Reference:
RG14PN2179 RG78PN74 RD26 SD1 ED36 SN416

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
East Battersea Enumeration District:
36 Parish:
Battersea

Address:
4 Hanbury Road Battersea S W County:
London

You will first need a copy of Kathleen Field's marriage certificate which hopefully will show her fathers name and her age. If her father is shown as John Thomas Field and Kathleen's age at marriage is appropriate then obtain a copy of the 1912 birth certificate which with any luck should prove that this is her birth family.

I think it likely as this marriage record gives the wife's name as Bennett which ties in with the mothers maiden name shown on the birth registration:

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
BENNETT Annie Wandsworth 1d 1200
FIELD John Thomas Wandsworth 1d 1200

Good luck

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 10 Aug 2010 09:26

Wow, thanks for that. I will see if I can get that. Really appreciate your help.

Also my nan told me of Kathleen's brothers Bert (Albert) and Leonard so looks like a match but she also told me of a sister called May.

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 11 Aug 2010 11:28

I have posted more detail on original request. I would like to know more about Sydney's fathers routes. My nan said that she believes that along his side we may have some Spanish blood. I would like to check this. Thank you all in return.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 11 Aug 2010 12:02

Just a possibility for Kathleen's sister May:

Name: May F Field
Mother's Maiden Surname: Bennett
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1923
Registration district: Lambeth
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 357