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Burdon, Burton, Buttons or Oakley Murders

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Lorna

Lorna Report 10 Aug 2008 23:46

Hi, I've hit a brick wall with this one. The family story goes that my gt gt grandmother Anna Abulia Burdon was orphaned along with her sister nellie after her father william was hanged for the murder of her mother. She was brought up in the green man pub in eversholt, then married a dewberry. Her marriage certificate says she was from Houghton Regis in Beds but there is no trace of this.

Please help!

Sam

Sam Report 10 Aug 2008 23:53

A marriage certficiate only says where someone was living at the time of the marriage, it doesn't mean they were born there. When was she born and what was her mothers name?

Sam x

Sam

Sam Report 10 Aug 2008 23:56

I take it that this is her marriage...

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Burdon Anna Abulia Woburn 3b 871
Dewberry Benjamin Woburn 3b 871

Liz 47

Liz 47 Report 10 Aug 2008 23:58

If you know the approximate date of the murder, you should be able to trace the death certs. which may give more information - the local library may have a newspaper archive.
Liz

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 10 Aug 2008 23:58

1901 ??

Name: Anna Dewberry
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benjamin
Gender: Female
Where born: Bosham Loa, Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Eversholt
Ecclesiastical parish: Eversholt St John the Baptist
Town: Eversholt
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ampthill
Sub registration district: Woburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members: Name Age
Anna Dewberry 25
Benjamin Dewberry 23
Florence E Dewberry 2
Idrena M Dewberry 1

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Aug 2008 00:31

Why do you have all those surnames in your title? Where do they fit in?

Ozi.

Lorna

Lorna Report 11 Aug 2008 11:38

A message that I have been emailed.

If you have Anna's marriage certificate, what was her father's name?? (If you don't have the certificate, the info for ordering it has been provided in your thread. She may not have given her (real) father's name when she married but it's worth checking.)

If you could copy and paste the info below to your thread, it would provide some more info that could be useful.

This is the household at the Green Man pub in Eversholt in 1881 -- is it possible that the Annie is your Anna?


Name: Annie N. Harris
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Where born: London Minorie, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Eversholt
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address: Church End Green Man Inn
Occupation: L V Daur (licensed victualler's daughter)

Registration district: Woburn
Sub registration district: Woburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4

Ann E. Dyson 59
Annie N. Harris 5
Emily Harris 37
John Harris 44
Mary E. Harris 16


Ah, rats -- that household has returned to London in 1891.


So I searched in 1891 for neighbours of the Green Man who were living there in 1881, and found the Ford household, still living next door to the pub. That gave me the link to the household at the put, once I looked at the census image to see who was there.


The household at the pub in 1891 is:


Name: William Willis Stubbs
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Adelina Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: All Saints, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eversholt
Ecclesiastical parish: Eversholt
Town: Eversholt
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Woburn
Sub registration district: Woburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Annie Maria Collins 17
Adelina Hannah Stubbs 31
Gwendoline H M Stubbs 10/12
William Willis Stubbs 27


This is the young general servant (domestic):

Name: Annie Maria Collins
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Woburn Sands, Bedfordshire, England


This doesn't seem to help much, but it does show who was living at the Green Man in 1881 and 1891, for what that might be worth!

Ah, but wait. The Fords have done us the great favour of still being there in 1901. And in 1901, the household at the Green Man Inn is:


Name: Arthur Wm Shillingford
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: St James Soho, London, England

Civil Parish: Eversholt
Ecclesiastical parish: Eversholt St John the Baptist
Town: Eversholt
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ampthill
Sub registration district: Woburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 52

Arthur Wm Shillingford 34
Ethel Maude Shillingford 1
Mary Ann Shillingford 31


Again -- no trace of your Anna or Nellie (Ellen?).

What you would need to do is find each of those households in the other years maybe, to see whether your girls were with one of them at a time when the household wasn't living in the pub.


Kathryn

Lorna

Lorna Report 11 Aug 2008 11:50

Wow, thanks for all of your interest! To answer a few questions, on her marriage certificate it says that her father is William Burdon, of Houghton Regis who is deceased. That was in 18 Apr 1898 in Eversholt.

Glitter baby and sam from stoke have the records that match with mine, but I have no trace of her life before this, including her mother's name. Her younger sister was a spinster and only known as nellie by family who are still alive. I have no trace in records of her either but i think she died in Eversholt.

The names that I have in the title are all names which familiy members believed to be her sunames!

I have no dates for the murder other than it was between Nellie's birth and Anna's wedding.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Aug 2008 21:28

I have a feeling this is Annie Maria Collins from 1891.

1901 England Census
Name: Annie Maria Collins
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Aspley Guise, Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wavendon
Ecclesiastical parish: Woburn Sands St Michael <<<<<
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: Wood Street

Occupation: laundress

Registration district: Newport Pagnell
Sub registration district: Fenny Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 255
Household Members: Name Age
James Collins 66
Annie Maria Collins 27



Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Aug 2008 22:03

Looking at 1901 for Ben & Annie I'm sure that Annie is born Botisham [Loe??}, not Bosham.

There is this:

1881 England Census
Name: Hannah Button
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Naomi
Gender: Female
Where born: Botisham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Whepstead
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address: Old Workhouse

Registration district: Thingoe
Sub registration district: Rougham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Button 29 <<<<
Naomi Button 25
Hannah Button 8 <<<<
Elen Button 5 <<<<
George Button 1
Kate Button

And Button is one of your questionmark surnames.



Deaths Jun 1881
Button Naomi 25 Thingoe 4a 324


Marriages Sep 1872
AYRER Naomi Newmarket 3b 909
AYRES Naomi Newmarket 3b 909
BUTTON William Newmarket 3b 909
Cornwell David Newmarket 3b 909
Peers Sarah Newmarket 3b 909



Births Dec 1855
Ayres Naomi Newmarket 3b 468

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Aug 2008 22:37

Aha! This has got to be Bosham Loa

"LODE, formerly Bottisham Lode (which includes Long-meadow and Fen), was separated from Bottisham by an Order of the Local Government Board, in November, 1894, and formed into a civil parish. It is a village on the Cambridge and Newmarket road, .......... and is 6 miles east from Cambridge ....

from Genuki website

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 11 Aug 2008 22:48

Can I just ask, where does the name Oakley come into it?

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Aug 2008 22:58

Could this be Anna Abulia?

Births Mar 1873
Burtton Hannah Beulah Newmarket 3b 594


& Nellie?

Births Mar 1876
Burtton Ellen Maud Newmarket 3b 572

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 11 Aug 2008 23:03

Ozibird - what a find! Well done.

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 11 Aug 2008 23:06

Sister? Nellie is short for Ellen.

Births Mar 1876
Burtton Ellen Maud Newmarket 3b 572

Irene

Irene Report 11 Aug 2008 23:08

who were the witnesses at the wedding please. Irene

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 11 Aug 2008 23:10

Deaths Jun 1881
Button Kate 0 Thingoe 4a 323
Button Naomi 25 Thingoe 4a 324

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 11 Aug 2008 23:13

Wonder what happened to George?

Lorna

Lorna Report 11 Aug 2008 23:26

Bottisham's nearest registry point for BMD would be newmarket.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 12 Aug 2008 00:20

I can't find George anywhere.

I've tried George under Burdon, Burtton, Burton & Button for birth & death & census with no luck.

1881 has him born in Whepstead.

Ozi.