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Alan

Alan Report 18 Sep 2010 16:38

hi can anyone find a marriage between a miss cheverill and a mr smith, possibly hampshire or the south,and pre 1903, im really stuck , thanks alan.
i have established that the wife was elizabeth f cheverill(1865), cant find a marriage, she was living alone with kids in 1901 so must be before that thanks alan.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Sep 2010 16:43

Do you have any christian names for the couple? Why would the marriage be pre-1903?

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Sep 2010 16:49

A bit late....

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1917 (>99%)
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Cheverill Florence R Smith Melksham 5a 223
Smith Herbert E Cheverill Melksham 5a 223


Andy

Alan

Alan Report 18 Sep 2010 16:55

no thats the problem only info ive got is miss cheverill married a mr smith and had 2 boys bill and albert and 2 girls fanny and rose, mr smith then died and she married a alfred gates, they had 3 girls grace, emily and alice, my gran born 1903 , i know her name was gates so mr smith must have died sometime before her birth , strange!
an ethel may smith married alfred gates june 1904, this would not tyin with grans birth,

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Sep 2010 17:02

Could this be your family in the 1911?

HOUSEHOLD GATES ALFRED M 1864 47 Havant Hampshire
HOUSEHOLD GATES ELIZABETH F 1865 46 Havant Hampshire
HOUSEHOLD GATES EMILY LOUISA F 1905 6 Havant Hampshire
HOUSEHOLD GATES ALICE BEATRICE F 1904 7 Havant Hampshire

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Sep 2010 17:04

Are these correct birth for Alice and Emily

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Gates Alice Beatrice Havant 2b 404

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Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
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Gates Emily Louisa Havant 2b 396


Andy

Alan

Alan Report 18 Sep 2010 17:07

yes thats them,well done thanks to you all, regards alan

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Sep 2010 17:12

I only have access to the 1911 index; perhaps someone with a sub would be kind enough to do a full search and show how many years Alfred & Elizabeth were married and how many children they had? Thanks in advance.....

Patricia

Patricia Report 18 Sep 2010 17:20

Hello the 1911 census states they had been married 9 years

Patricia

Patricia Report 18 Sep 2010 17:22

showed also that she had given birth to two children both living

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Sep 2010 17:25

Thanks Patricia

Patricia

Patricia Report 18 Sep 2010 17:29

thats ok.....still trying to find an earlier census record for him...like to get my teath into something

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Sep 2010 17:38

Looks like this family may have a connection . Ros(ina) Grace Fanny?

1901 England Census
about Fanny Smith Name: Fanny Smith
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Havant
Ecclesiastical parish: Havant St Faiths
Town: Havant
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Havant
Sub-registration district: Havant
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Smith 36 married, servant, born Weymouth
William Smith 13
Rosina Smith 8
Fanny Smith 6
Marie Grace Smith 5


Andy

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Sep 2010 17:43

Just wondering whether this marriage has any connection?

Marriages Sep 1887
CHIVERALLS Elizabeth Martha Weymouth 5a 540
SMITH William John Weymouth 5a 540

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Sep 2010 17:52

All seems to fit together.

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth M Chiveralls Name: Elizabeth M Chiveralls
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James W Chiveralls
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Chiveralls
Gender: Female
Where born: Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Melcombe Regis
Town: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Weymouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
James W Chiveralls 35
Elizabeth Chiveralls 40
Elizabeth M Chiveralls 6

Andy


Patricia

Patricia Report 18 Sep 2010 17:56

I have found a marriage for an Ethel Mary Smith and not Ethel May being married to a Alfred Gates in June 1904 but that was in Derbyshire... Am I missing the point now Also is Alan comming back onto this Link

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Sep 2010 18:00

1891 census for Elizabeth ......but still no husband

Name: Elizabeth M Smith
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter-in-Law
Spouse's name: Joseph D Smith
Gender: Female
Where born: Weymouth, Dorset, England

Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
David Smith 49 Head
Joseph D Smith 17 Son Single
Elizabeth M Smith 26 Daughter in Law Married
William J Smith 3 Son
Albert G Smith 10/12 Son

Patricia

Patricia Report 18 Sep 2010 18:00

I cannot find another for Alfred Gates to an Ethel

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 18 Sep 2010 18:02

Patricia, I think we are now looking for a marriage between Elizabeth & Alfred as per the 1911 census.....but I must admit I haven't found one yet!!!

Patricia

Patricia Report 18 Sep 2010 18:04

Nor have I