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Trying to find the parents of my grandfather Harold William Chipperton, born June 29 1893. He was an illegitimate child and not sure if he was named Chipperton after his mother or father OR his adoptive family? Rumour has it the mothers surname was Chipperton, but she would have been unmarried and gave Harold away.

My family think the father was a doctor and the mother was a nurse or a maid. I think it would have been in London or Alton. My grandfather had referred to a brother and a sister, that he claimed were NOT blood relatives. Somewhere in the the thick of all this there is non-blood relative he called his sister that went by the name Flo - she was from Farnham and later in life she had 10 children. And to coincide with one of the posts below we think her name was Wiltshire or Spencer.

He went to the Gordon Boys school (back then it was The Gordon Boys Home) in West End, Woking (possibly around 1903 - 1907) and I've been told this was an expensive private school that was paid for by??? His real father?

During WW1 he was in the Royal Artillery.

He listed himself on his marriage certificate where it says 'father' - thats actually his own name and his profession - he was a gardener, he actually went on to be head gardener at Regents Park in London. Probably because he did not know his fathers name.

If you have any information please contact me.

Thanks for the info below - I am in the midst of sorting through it. THANK YOU!!

Sue Chipperton

No help but this is him in 1911

DOUGALL, Mary M Head Widow F 52 1859 Secretary Yorkshire Doncker VIEW
DOUGALL, Donald M Son Single M 20 1891 Insurance Clerk Cambridge Ely VIEW
DOUGALL, Mary M Daughter Single F 19 1892 Dancing Teacher Cambridge Ely VIEW
VILAR, Joseph Domestic Servant Single M 27 1884 Butler Domestic Majorca VIEW
CHIPPERTON, Harold Domestic Servant Single M 17 1894 Garden Boy Domestic Hampshire Alton VIEW
IRONS, Fred Domestic Servant Single M 18 1893 House Boy Domestic Essex West Ham VIEW
POTTER, Dorothy Domestic Servant Single F 23 1888 Housemaid Domestic Surrey S Norwood VIEW
POTTER, Annie Domestic Servant Single F 21 1890 Cook Domestic Surrey S Norwood VIEW

Registration District:
Hendon Sub District:
Hendon EnumerationDistrict:
7 Parish:
Hendon

Address:
The Hospice Queens Road Hendon

Hi Sue
It is not a good idea to put your personal Email add on these boards,it is also against Genes Rules.
I will look for your rellie and post anything I or we find on this thread for you so no need for personal email.
sue

Possible death Reg.

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Harold William Chipperton
Name: Harold William Chipperton
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Alton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 0030


possible birth Reg
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about William Harold Chiverton
Name: William Harold Chiverton
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Alton (1837 Onw)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 164

This tells you his fathers name.

Name: Harold William Chipperton
Spouse: Alice Theresa Foss
Father: Harold William Chipperton


I think this is the marriage ,no details other than the above for his wife.
If you order his marriage cert ot should give you the rest of the details.

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%)
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Adams Edith Sheppard Camberwell 1d 1468
Chipperton Harold W Foes Camberwell 1d 1468
Dunnett Louise A Foulds Camberwell 1d 1468
Foulds Victor H Dunnett Camberwell 1d 1468
Sheppard George Adams Camberwell 1d 1468

His marriage (if this is him). He names his father as another Harold William Chipperton

Harold William Chipperton>>>>>>>>>Soldier
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Spouse Name: Alice Theresa Foss
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Oct 1918
Parish: St George, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Harold William Chipperton>>>>>deceased Gardener
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Foss

Not sure about Chiverton. He may of course have mis-spelt it as he got older!

Harold Chiverton
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Ward
Gender: Male
Where born: Alton, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Alton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence With Thedden
Town: Alton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Alton
Sub-registration district: Alton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
George Wiltshire 59
Mary A Wiltshire 53
Alfred J Wiltshire 14
Harold Chiverton 8>>>>>>>>>>>>Ward
George Payne 1>>>>>>Ward

Thanks I removed my email address.

ASTRA - This is amazing. I called my Mum and Dad in England (this Harold is my Dad's Dad) and it jolted his memory - he said he remembered the name Wiltshire. He thought there was a sister Flo. Maybe she had already left the house if this was from a census. What if I'm a CHIVERTON and NOT a Chipperton!! Oh my gosh. I will send you a private message - I would love to know how you are connected. Thank you SO MUCH for this information. I was always baffled because there was no birth cert. for a Harold Chipperton around 1893.

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Sue - there is a Florence Wiltshire on 1891 census, born 1879, but you probably already have this. Not a good idea to have 2 threads going - it gets confusing.

Wend.

Yes, I now have Florence info thanks.

Not sure I understand why it would be confusing to have two threads going with two separate headings appealing to two potentially different groups of people - Chippertons & Wiltshires.

Not trying to be sarcastic or anything - I just don't see why? If I were a Wiltshire relative and were checking posts for Wiltshires, seeing the Chiverton reference might be the first I'd heard of such a connection..and vice versa.

If I'm missing something then by all means let me know as I'm new to this.

Thanks Sue

Births Jun 1880
WILTSHIRE Bertha Florence Alton 2c 172

Marriages Dec 1899
Spencer William Thomas Farnham 2a 234
Wiltshire Bertha Florence Farnham 2a 234


Rose

1901 England Census
about Florence Spencer
Name: Florence Spencer
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Alford, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Farnham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Farnham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Farnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age
Harriett Nash 56
William Spencer 22
Florence Spencer 21
Thomas Spencer 11 months
Albert Spencer 20

Rose

Thanks Rose that last part is new to me.

Flo is of particular interest because she eventually had ten children (5 boys/5 girls) which is confirmed by my father, one of her daughters was nicknamed Billy and Billy had a daughter named Ann(e) Collen (Collin) who may still be alive.

Of course who knows if she would have any information about my grandfather.

Some of the Wiltshires were at my grandfathers funeral in 1978 in Alton.

It would seem that my 84 year old fathers memory has been jogged with all this, so the Wiltshire stuff is slowly coming to light!

Thank you for all the help - it certainly is generous of you all to help!

Sue

1911

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD NASH HARRIETT F 1844 67 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER ALBERT M 1881 30 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER ALBERT M 1901 10 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER ARTHUR M 1903 8 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER BERTHA F 1880 31 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER BERTHA F 1905 6 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER NELLIE F 1908 3 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER PERCY M 1910 7 MONTHS Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER THOMAS M 1900 11 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER VICTOR M 1907 4 Farnham Surrey
HOUSEHOLD SPENCER WILLIAM M 1879 32 Farnham Surrey

Rose

Births Sep 1912
Spencer Kathleen Wiltshire Farnham 2a 325


Births Jun 1915
Spencer Elsie M Wiltshire Farnham 2a 283


Births Dec 1916
Spencer Winifred Wiltshire Farnham 2a 248

Rose

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Winifred Spencer
Name: Winifred Spencer
Spouse Surname: Collen
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Registration district: Surrey South Western
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2065
Find Spouse: Alfred G L Collen

Rose

There's a daughter Anne born in Fulham and also a son called Spencer. Spencer died in 1991.

Rose

Sorry, I should have put yesterday's post about Florence Wiltshire on the TTF George Wiltshire thread.