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Can anyone tell me who William Cockerill b 1813 Hackness Scarb father was please? then if you feel really helpfull who was his grandfather?

Have you searched the IGI yourself?

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/search_igi.asp


And for those of us who aren't local - Hackness is ... where? Mm, Scarb - Scarborough, Yorkshire?


And - do you know who William married, have you looked for the marriage in the IGI or at FreeBMD if the marriage was after 1837, and if it was after 1837 are you ordering the marriage certificate to get the father's name?

Five William Cockerill marriages in Scarborough district 1838-1851.

You'll know whether one of them is yours? I know I won't!

William married Eleanor Anderson in Hutton Buschel Scarborough in c jun 1941 ( from freebmd ). yes i have looked on family search and cant fimd him

1841 (not 1941).

I realize you have an aversion to purchasing certificates -- but I don't know how else anyone could tell you who William's father was!

And the 1851 says he was born in Hutton Bushell, and in that census his wife is called Ellen (common for Eleanors) and his surname is spelled Cockrill.

You know this, I assume? If you're asking people to help in searches, why not offer all the info you have?

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WM COCKERILL Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
14 NOV 1813 Hutton Bushel, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: CHRISTOPHER COCKERILL Family
Mother: ANN

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C089501 1572 - 1642 0558353 Film 6910536 Film
C089501 1653 - 1837 0558353 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

maybe a brother?

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CHRISTOPHER COCKERILL Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
18 AUG 1794
Christening:
14 SEP 1794 Wykeham, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: CRISTOPHER COCKERILL Family
Mother: ANN DICKINSON

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C041651 1744 - 1812 0551585 Film 6910003 Film
Sheet: 00


siblings?

1. SARAH COCKERILL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1808 Wykeham, Yorkshire, England
2. HENRY COCKERILL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 MAR 1811 Wykeham, Yorkshire, England
3. ELIZABETH COCKERILL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 APR 1797 Wykeham, Yorkshire, England
4. HANNAH COCKERILL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 MAR 1800 Wykeham, Yorkshire, England
5. EDWARD COCHERILL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 14 DEC 1792 Wykeham, Yorkshire, England
, England
7. MARY ANNE COCKERILL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: About 15 MAR 1803 Wykeham, Yorkshire, En

Cockerill

Cockerell

Cockarell

Cockarill

Cockrill

Cockrell





Just a few of the many variant spellings of your guy's name!!



have you searched under ALL those possibilities?





BTW ......... I know these are possible variants because I have Lancashire Cock(e)r(e)ll's in my ancestry .................... and have found them listed on censuses and other documents under ALL of those names ............ and the further you go back the worse it gets.



You might want to look on www.rootsweb.com and see if there is a tree listed that might connect with your fellow


OR look at the trees on www.ancestry.co.uk





sylvia

Oops, Moody Blue beat me to it - except that I was going to explain to Arthur how to do it himself.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm#PageTitle

FIXED URL - Sorry, Sylvia, for me it breaks at punctuation - it's only huge long single words like Ginny's the other day that ruin the thread. ;)
(The URL has to be copied and pasted back together to use it, now. Everybody should have it bookmarked!)

Click on Yorkshire E-H, find Hutton Bushel, click on the batch number for births. Search for surname Cockerill.

William's oldest son was Christopher.

Seems like a slam dunk.

Sorry JaneyCanuck.................didn't mean to shove in! But here is the marriage for good measure:-


CHRISTOPHER COCKERILL Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ANN DICKINSON Family
Marriage:
13 DEC 1791 Wykeham, Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M041651 1728 - 1812 0551585 Film 6910004 Film
Sheet: 00

Could this be the christening of the Christopher that married in 1791 to Ann Dickinson?

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CHRISTIPHER COCKERIL Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
13 NOV 1757 Hackness, Yorkshire, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: HENERY COCKERIL Family

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film 6900688 Film
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
P007921 1566 - 1783 0844554 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Janey

are you the one that's done the overlong web address :)))))))))))))))))))))))

Sorry did i catch someone on a bad night!

I have researched the cockerills all the way back to 1545 and have never manage to link wiliam cockerill b c 1813 past his grandfather henry. Was only trying to fill in the blanks.
Sorry to have caused an issue. Wont happen again. i am now doing 100 lines and sitting on the step.

If you have already researched this family "all the way back to 1545" why on earth did you want this info:

"Can anyone tell me who William Cockerill b 1813 Hackness Scarb father was please? then if you feel really helpfull who was his grandfather?"


From your last reply ie "I have researched the cockerills all the way back to 1545 and have never manage to link wiliam cockerill b c 1813 past his grandfather henry" . it would appear that you knew the information already.

What a waste of everyone's time!!!!

Well, isn't this special.

(a) Can anyone tell me who William Cockerill b 1813 Hackness Scarb father was please? then if you feel really helpfull who was his grandfather?

(b) I have researched the cockerills all the way back to 1545 and have never manage to link wiliam cockerill b c 1813 past his grandfather henry.


Odd. If I were the one saying (b), I can't think of why in the world I would be at this site saying (a).

I give up. What was it you wanted, ArthurSleep? Have we failed you?

Was not trying to cause offense. Was just trying to piece a bit that didnt fit right into place. Have been told i was wrong by expert. and since i am not i sought advise hence the thread. It is sometimes good to clear the table and get a different opinion which is what i was trying to do.
So sorry if anyone took offense.

Thankyou for that Arthur, but you can see how annoying it is to find out that the information you are seeking is known by you all along? That over with , have you seen that there are two marriages for a Henery/Henry Cockerill in Hackness Yorks?

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HENERY COCKERILL Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH WALLIS Family
Marriage:
04 AUG 1745 Hackness, Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M007921 1570 - 1785 0844554 Film 6909666 Film
Sheet: 00

and this one:-

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HENRY COCKERILL Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BUTLER Family
Marriage:
16 OCT 1759 Hackness, Yorkshire, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M007921 1570 - 1785 0844554 Film 6909666 Film
Sheet: 00


In order for Christopher (christened 1757) to be legitimate. the marriage should be the first one.Also note the name is also spelled Henery which is the same as on the christening. Maybe not too relevent but thought to point it out.

Brenda

Well that would explain the argument so to speak. I assumed because i am only a 4 week veteran, that they had their tree wrong or that their were 2 henrys etc. Also Family search doesnt help with them inputting stuff as Henry?henrici etc.

would it therefore be safe to assume that their is only one henry but 2 wifes? and 2nd one came along after first died? or that their is another henry perhaps a siblings child?? Thats the bit i am stuck on

Sorry for getting you rattled - again this was not my intension i just want to get it right or what is the point.

A

The thing is, the people who help here aren't taking tests. We're trying to help.

I for one, and I know others, don't appreciate being used as lab rats. If you have information and want to test its validity, provide the information and the source and explain the problem/dispute, and we will be happy to help.


Btw, the various names you see at the Mormon site are because in old registers, names were entered in the Latinate form. William may be Guillaumus, for instance. The site will find all such equivalents automatically.