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Kelly

Kelly Report 18 Nov 2008 17:47

I have just started trying to find my family hstory, I have the birth certifiates of my grandad and nanny and the names of their parents, but no birth dates, so I have come to a dead end already!!

My grandads name was albert cook born in worcester in 1922 to Mary Ann Cook, Late Harris, formerly Lallay, fathers name Albert Cook also.

My nan is Rose Cook, formerly Watts, born to Phoebe & Harold in 1927 in Birmingham.

I am wondering if anyone can help? Thanks

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 18 Nov 2008 17:51

Cheer up.....it's not a dead end..far from it!

You need to look for the marriages of both sets of parents...............

Do you know Phoebe's maiden name?

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 17:53

Kelly

You will find the following site very useful.

www.freebmd.org.uk

It's a free site and firly easy to navigate about.

If you enter the names of your grandparents, and select the marriage option it should give you the date they married and the area.

People tended to marry where they were born....(altho there are exceptions to this!) So this would be your next step.

Then you would need to order the marriage cert, this will give you your GGgrandfathers names, and hopefully you should be able to find them on the census.



Tracey

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Nov 2008 17:54

so you need to look for both marriages ,try Freebmd,
look for a marriage for Albert Cook to Mary Ann Harris first and see how you get on

Kelly

Kelly Report 18 Nov 2008 17:55

Thanks for the quick replies, I guess its not as easy as i first thought, but I am determined!!

I know the date my grandparents married, I have their birth certificate here so have date etc, therefore have both of their fathers names. But I dont have their fathers birth dates or where they 'originated' from.

Phoebes parents were Harold Watts & Phoebe Watts (Who would obviously have been formerly known as something else!)

Jeese I am confused already!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 17:55

Hmm,

I have found this.....

Births Mar 1927
Watts Rose M (mothers maiden name) Sperry Birmingham N. 6d 784


Tracey

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 18 Nov 2008 17:56

Is this Rose's birth?

Births Mar 1927 (>99%)

Watts Rose M Sperry Birmingham N. 6d 784

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 17:57

Rose's sister....

Births Jun 1928
Watts Betty M (mmn) Sperry Birmingham N. 6d 831

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 17:57

Eric we think alike !!!

Kelly

Kelly Report 18 Nov 2008 17:59

No she was born 5th november 1927, North Birmingham, sub-district is St Marys.

She isnt appearing anywhere!!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 18:01

Here's Albert....


Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Cook Albert J (mmn) Lalley Worcester 6c 232


Tracey

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Nov 2008 18:02

Phoebes maiden name will be on Rose birth cert,you can the look for the marriage of her parents Phoebe to Harold Watts

Kelly

Kelly Report 18 Nov 2008 18:03

Thanks for that where did you get that from??
What is the Lalley bit??

His mothers maiden name was Lallay, but he wouldnt of ever been known as a lallay?

You guys are quick!!!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 18:03

ahhh, i bet she was registered in 1928 !

hang on.....

T x

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 18:04

Here you go....

Births Mar 1928
Watts Rose (mmn) Gough Birmingham N. 6d 617

The March indicates the birth was registered in the months of jan, feb, mar..... following year registrations often happen with late year births...

I bet Rose was registered in early Jan 1928 !


Tracey

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 18:05

... the Lalley is the listed mothers maiden name!


Tracey

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 18 Nov 2008 18:07

Marriages Mar 1906

CARTER Adah Winifred Worcester 6c 321
>>Harris James Worcester 6c 321
>>Lalley Mary Ann Worcester 6c 321
Wyatt Francis James L Worcester 6c 321

Kelly

Kelly Report 18 Nov 2008 18:08

Unfortunatly I only have the small birth certificate which gives no information on parents, i cold buy the bigger one but as I am only on the next generation I was hoping to last a bit longer doing handy research!!

The only reason I know roses fathers name, is because it is on her marriage certificate to my grandad!

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 18 Nov 2008 18:10

So we're looking for a Watts/Gough pairing and a Cook/Lalley pairing....


Tracey

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 18 Nov 2008 18:10

Marriages Sep 1919
Cook Albert J ...Harris Worcester 6c 394
Harris Mary A ...Cook Worcester 6c 394