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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 29 Jan 2008 00:19

For ref, what I had in the other thread.


I just had a quick scan of deaths in Ontario in 1893, at Ancestry, and there's no Susan* who looks like she might be Delsall. The Cdn originals are horrific in many cases, the scans worse, and the transcriptions much worser, but nothing looks likely.

I also checked in Ontario for marriages of Susan* to Delsall, and any Delsall marriage at all. No such name. Nor in the 1901/1911 censuses. Closest we get is Dalzell in British Columbia in 1911.

The provinces all have to be checked individually, at their vital stats sites, for BMDs.


Aha. The 1871 census at Ancestry is index / head of household only:


Name: Samuel Delsall
Event: Living
Year: 1871
Province: New Brunswick
County: St. John
Place: St John
Comments: Cabinetmaker.
Source: New Brunswick Directory for 1871, The Genealogical Research Library, Toronto, 1984.
Volume/Page: 179
Note: The province and county are associated with the location of the record source and in some cases may not be the same as the place where the event occured.


There are quite a few Dalzells in the NB death records, including a couple of Samuels who could be that 1871 Samuel. I'm suspecting that that's what the name really was.

Someone at ancestry.ca has entered a name correction for one of them in the 1901 census -- I saw the marriage record for this couple, but obviously Susie isn't your Susannah since she's living in 1901:


Name: George T Dalzell
[George Young Dalzell]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 47
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1853
Birthplace: Nb
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sussie
...


It might be worth contacting that Ancestry user to see whether s/he knows anything. If you PM me that email address, I can send a message through ancestry.ca asking that the user contact you.


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 29 Jan 2008 00:15

Ah, Grace, what you didn't tell me was that there was a whole thread underway with info in it already -- you just asked me your question in that other thread, rather than doing as Janice suggested. Lucky I was too busy to get right on to it ...

Grace

Grace Report 28 Jan 2008 22:00

Thanks Janice will do that and let you know how I get on, sorry again for delay in answering. Beth

jansmith

jansmith Report 25 Jan 2008 00:10

Grace if you go to "tips board" another GR complaint post - next pages of searches
this is a message Kathryn has posted,so click on her name and send her a personal message and tell her you have posted on thos board and it has been suggested that she might be able to help you.

Grace

Grace Report 24 Jan 2008 20:52

Hello Margaret, thanks for the advice but how do I contact, Kathryn?

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 20 Jan 2008 22:56


As I said find Kathryn B who is in Canada. She is always helping on other threads.

Im sure she will find something for you.

Grace

Grace Report 20 Jan 2008 12:11

Sorry yes I had gone to bed!! Yes Henry is Gt Grandfather and Susannah is his Aunt, the? is why did she go to Canada, and her surname is now Delsall, of which I can find no answers, did she get married before she went, or when she was over there, her "memory "card says interred in Canada and grave no, but canada is a big Place. Thanks

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Jan 2008 23:58

well in case its the one here they are in 1871 ?with Emma's brother



Name: Emma Cranfield
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Fordham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Copford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Name: Henry Cranfield
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Copford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Copford
County/Island: Essex
Name: Thos Cant
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Fordham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Copford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Name: Sarah Cant
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thos
Gender: Female
Where born: Fordham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Copford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Name: Ellen Cant
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Copford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Copford

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 19 Jan 2008 23:29


I think Grace has gone to bed

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Jan 2008 23:15

could this be Henry? 1891 census

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Copford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Copford
Ecclesiastical parish: Copford
Town: Village
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Name: Emma Cranfield
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Fordham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Copford
Ecclesiastical parish: Copford
Town: Village
County/Island: Essex

Household Members: Name Age
Beatrice Cranfield 6
Edith Cranfield 1
Emma Cranfield 40
Flory Cranfield 19
Henry Cranfield 40
Maud Cranfield 12
Polly Cranfield 4
William Cranfield 17




Battenburg

Battenburg Report 19 Jan 2008 23:13


Can you get someone with Canada census to look for her

Just thought of Kathryn B she is in Canada and always very helpful . She was on tips doing her stuff there

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 19 Jan 2008 23:06

Also on the IGI
Susan Cronfield born 13/8/1837 christened 10/9/1837 Cavendish Suffolk.Parents Henry Cronfield and Martha.


1841 census.
James Cranfield 1811 Suffolk.occ ag lab
Ann 1811 Suffolk.
Mary Ann 1836 Suffolk.
Susan 1838 Suffolk.
Susanana 1840 Suffolk

address Upland St Mary Bures Suffolk

Grace

Grace Report 19 Jan 2008 22:44

Sorry for the delay Lynne, her husband was Henry Cranfield, he was illegitimate, I have proof of that. Susannah definately went to Canada, I have a printed card with info. of her death and my husbands father talked about his mother talking of an Aunt of hers who lived in Canada. Thank you for your help. Beth

Grace

Grace Report 19 Jan 2008 18:07

A relative of my husband, Susannah Cranfield in the 1851 census aged 11yrs. Recently an Aunt of his passed away, and in her late husbands bible was found a card telling of her death in Canada in 1893 aged 48, loving sister of Emma Cranfield, she did not have a sister Emma, but a sister in law with that name, this would be my husbands GtGt Grandmother. The problem I have is I cannot find any info on that surname let alone her, any advice would be very welcome