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Charlotte

Charlotte Report 21 Feb 2010 21:06

Thanks again, i have little spare time at the moment, so i really appreciate your help. I am searching as much as possible, maybe i am trying to fill in too much in too many branches...
Your knowledge and expertise helps you to find these details much quicker than me, once i have navigated myself around all the sites, the rest should fall in to place.
Thanks again for all the research you have done for me.

Flick

Flick Report 21 Feb 2010 10:46

Can I just say that the birthplace for Robert as per 1851 should read Alrewas. Ancestry's transcription is inaccurate

Flick

Flick Report 21 Feb 2010 10:39

From freebmd - which, again, you can search yourself - this seems to be the death of Frances's mother

Deaths Sep 1850 (>99%)
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STATHAM Harriet Salford 20 744


If you now look on freebmd for Robert's re-marriage, you will be able to order the certificate to find out his father's details.

The best part of family research is finding things yourself

Flick

Flick Report 21 Feb 2010 10:35

Charlotte

You can try to find Joseph and Martha's parents by looking yourself on the IGI

www.familysearch.org

That was where I found their marriage - and the baptisms of some of their children

Or try the Lancs OPC - google for website link.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 21 Feb 2010 04:03

1851 England Census about F Statham
Name: F Statham
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: M
Gender: Female
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: 8 George Street
Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Wirral
Sub-registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 1m
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 125
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Statham 35 Provisions Dealer .. b. Aldawas, Satffordshire
M Statham 24
S A Statham 13 .. Assistant in Shop
F Statham 10
M A Stringfellow 14 Ho. Serv.


Julcoe

Julcoe Report 21 Feb 2010 03:54

1841 England Census about Frances Statham
Name: Frances Statham
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Eccles
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:
Occupation: --

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Statham 25 .. Provisions Dealer
Harriet Statham 35
Sarah Statham 4
Joseph Statham 2
Frances Statham 1

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 20 Feb 2010 22:39

Great news...a relative has shared their tree with me and i now have lots of branches....
i have all noah and frances children and all of joseph and marthas children. Most of them have married and had children, and this tree details them.
To get to the top may be more difficult...

Joseph Emery born 1800 in Swinton and was a gardener.
Martha Crawshaw (crowshaw) born 1803 in Ringley, Lancs.
Married in Eccles 1-11-1824.
Parents???
Frances Statham born 1840 Pendleton, Salford, Lancs
Parents??

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 20 Feb 2010 21:20

Julcoe, your help is much appreciated too. :)

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 20 Feb 2010 20:15

Flick, thankyou very much for researching this for me. All your info is greatly appreciated.
I have being paying to look up ancestors, as i have just started using genes. I will look up www.familysearch as you suggested. THANKS.

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 20 Feb 2010 07:39

1891 Scotland Census about Rebecca Barr
Name: Rebecca Barr
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire -
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 45 Tennent St
Occupation: Drapery Saleswoman
ED: 46
Household schedule number: 126
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1891_264
Household Members: Name Age
James Barr 47 .. Police Constable
Mary A Barr 44
Wm Jno Barr 24 .. Steam Engine Fitter
Albert G Barr 22 .. Steam Engine Fitter
Rebecca Barr 20
Margt Barr 16 .. Book Liner
Maria Barr 13 .. Warehouse Message Girl
James Barr 11 .. Scholar
Emily Barr 9 .. Scholar
Alexr Barr 5 .. Scholar
Angus Barr 3

1901 Scotland Census about Mary A Barr
Name: Mary A Barr
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow St Mungo
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 67 Alexandra Parade
Occupation: Slop Finisher
ED: 61
Household schedule number: 151
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_275
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Barr 54
Margaret Barr 26 .. Book Folder
Angus Barr 13 .. Message Boy

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 20 Feb 2010 07:28

1881 Scotland Census about Rebecca Barr
Name: Rebecca Barr
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 92 Albert St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 20
Household schedule number: 25
Line: 16
Roll: cssct1881_228
Household Members: Name Age
James Barr 37 .. Police Constable .. b. Ireland
Mary Barr 34 .. b. Ireland
Wm Jno Barr 14 .. Apprentice Grocer .. b. Ireland
Gilmore Barr 12 .. b. Glasgow
Rebecca Barr 10
Mary Ann Barr 8
Margaret Barr 6
Maria Barr 3
James Barr 1
John Marshall 29 .. Lodger .. Masons Labourer
Henry Wark 45 .. Lodger .. Masons Labourer

1871 Scotland Census about Janes Barr
Name: Janes Barr (.. ? James?)
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Terry, Ireland
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Central District
Civil parish: Glasgow Inner High
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 22 Parlimentary Rd
Occupation: Labourer
ED: 79
Household schedule number: 87
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1871_124
Household Members: Name Age
Janes Barr 27
Mary A Barr 24 .. b. Antrim, Ireland
William J Barr 4 .. b. Derry, Ireland
Gilman Barr 2 .. b. Derry, Ireland
Rebecca Barr 9 Mo

Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2010 22:58

Emery, British Isles
Father: Joseph , Mother: Martha
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C033651

1. JOHN EMERY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 JAN 1825 Saint Peter, Swinton, Lancashire, England

2. ISAIAH EMERY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 25 FEB 1829 Saint Peter, Swinton, Lancashire, England

3. ALICE EMERY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 02 JAN 1831 Saint Peter, Swinton, Lancashire, England

4. ELIZABETH EMERY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 APR 1827 Saint Peter, Swinton, Lancashire, England


Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2010 22:56

Noah's parents

Joseph Emery :

Marriages:
Spouse: Martha Crawshaw
Marriage: 01 NOV 1824 Eccles, Lancashire, England


Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2010 22:52

One of the brothers in 1871

Name: Cain Emery
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Household schedule number: 108
Household Members: Name Age
Cain Emery 25
Eliza Emery 25
Alfred H Emery 2


Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2010 22:49

1841

Name: Martha Emery
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Eccles
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Emery 35
Martha Emery 35
John Emery 15
Alice Emery 10
Mary Emery 5
Stephen Emery 3
Maks Emery 1 ************Image is Noah


Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2010 22:45

1871

Name: Noah Emery
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Noah Emery 31
Frances Emery 31
Robert S Emery 7
Ada M Emery 4
Helena Emery 3
Margaret A Emery 2
Arthur Emery 6 months
Mary A Sheppherd 18


Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2010 22:44

1861

Name: Noah Emery
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Swinton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccles
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Emery 61
Martha Emery 58
Noah Emery 21
Cain Emery 15
William Woodcock 22

Flick

Flick Report 19 Feb 2010 22:42

This is 1881 census - which you may not know is FREE

www.familysearch.org - or Ancestry

Name: Robert Statham Emery
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Noah
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: P V Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Alsager
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address: Lawton Road
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Apprentice Engraver (Potter)

Registration district: Congleton
Sub-registration district: Sandbach
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Noah Emery 41
Frances Emery 41
Robert Statham Emery 17
Ada Mary Emery 14
Helena Emery 13
Margaret Alice Emery 12
Arthur Emery 10
Sarah Fern Smetham Scholes 34 Governess

All born in Manchester

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 19 Feb 2010 15:34

I have more info from Scotlands people.
Robert Statham Emery b1866
Father Noah Emery
Mother Frances Statham.
Robert married Rebecca Barr b1871 on 26/12/1895
Her father was James Barr
Mother Maryann Cairns.
Robert S Emery b1897 married Constance Lilian Hargreaves b1901 on 13/12/1922
Her father was Walter Hargreaves
Mother Eliza McLean.
Can anyone help with these new relatives?
Thanks in advance.

Charlotte

Charlotte Report 19 Feb 2010 09:39

Thanks to Julcoe for the extra information on my Great Grandad. I now know he was born in England, and it seems to be that England is more searchable than in Scotland. Thanks again to everyone who is helping me in my search.