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Missing 1871 Census

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Phillip

Phillip Report 25 Feb 2010 10:24

I am trying to find the 1871 census for a frederick john woodman born 1847 in horrabridge, devon.
I have the 1851, 1861,1881,1891 & 1901, but have had no luck in locating the 1871.
due to him moving around the country rather alot, i am intrigued to find out what i can in the 1871 census. I have a location for him in 1870 as he married in stockton yorkshire, and in 1872 as his first son was born also frederick john woodman in skinninggrove yorkshire.

i do know in
1847 in Horrabridge devon born
1851 2 Roborough Cottage, Buckland Monachorum,
1861 living with the thomas family as a border in Gunnislake, Tavistock : miner
1870 Stockton Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding married an Elizabeth Maunder
1872 43 skinningrove, York (source birth cert of his son)
1881 57 West Road Lofthouse, York, England : newspaper reporter
1891 21 Cromwell terrace, Halifax : Journalist

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 10:29

Phillip, are you able to copy one or two census reports onto here? 1861 and 1881 would help locate him for us.
Jan

Phillip

Phillip Report 25 Feb 2010 10:32

yes this is deffinately him, i have crossed referenced alot of material, and as he died in 1930, i have some quite recent records of him

Phillip

Phillip Report 25 Feb 2010 10:35

1861 England Census
about Frederick J Woodman
Name: Frederick J Woodman
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Horrsebridge, Devon, England

Civil parish: Calstock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Tavistock
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Household Members: Name Age
George Thomas 52
Maryann Thomas 52
Richard Thomas 12
Susannah Thomas 10
Samson Thomas 7
Thalia Thomas 6
Magdelena Thomas 22
Thecla Thomas 1
Frederick J Woodman 13


1881 England Census
about John Woodman
Name: John Woodman
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Tavistock, Devon, England

Civil parish: Lofthouse
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 57 West Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Newspaper Reporter

Registration district: Guisborough
Sub-registration district: Lofthouse
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Woodman 34
Elizabeth Woodman 38
Emma J. Lark 22
John Lark 19
W. Woodman 10
F. J. Woodman 8
Alfred Woodman 4
Sampson N. Woodman 2


brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 10:42

Have you managed to find Elizabeth in 1871? Having a bit of trouble with Ancestry!
Jan

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 12:04

They should be together by their marriage.

Marriages Sep 1870
-----------------------------
Lark Elizabeth Stockton 10a 163
Woodman Frederick John Stockton 10a 163

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 12:11

I know it's likely, but not absolute - if we find her this would tell us if we are looking for him on his own.
She was born in Cornwall it seems. Not finding her either mind you!
Jan

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 12:15

Im not finding the Lark children either !

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 12:17

Births Dec 1870
--------------------------

Lark William Woodman Guisbro' 9d 444

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 12:19

Was Elizabeth married before? Looks like Emma is her daughter:

1861 England Census

Name: Elizabeth Lark
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Callington
County/Island: Cornwall

Registration district: Liskeard
Sub-registration district: Callington

John Lark 25
Elizabeth Lark 22
Emma J Lark 2

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Feb 2010 12:20

This looks to be Elizabeth in 1861:-

Name: Elizabeth Lark
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Callington
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: Liskeard
Sub-registration district: Callington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 313
Household Members:
Name Age
John Lark 25
Elizabeth Lark 22
Emma J Lark 2 born: Callington, Cornwall

but her birth year here is given as 1839.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 12:20

No, FBG you are right - they married in 1870!
Jan

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Feb 2010 12:23

Elizabeth's first marriage:-

Marriages Sep 1856 (>99%)
Lark John Liskeard 5c 145
Maunder Elizabeth Liskeard 5c 145

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Feb 2010 12:37

I know you didn't ask for this but here it is anyway in case you don't have it:-

1911
WOODMAN, Frederick John Head Married M 63 1848 Newspaper Editor Harrabridge Devonshire VIEW
WOODMAN, Sarah Ann Wife Married 14 years F 60 1851 Stepney London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
20830 Reference:
RG14PN20830 RG78PN1244 RD434 SD4 ED9 SN167

Registration District:
Shardlow Sub District:
Stapleford EnumerationDistrict:
9 Parish:
Long Eaton

Address:
21 Cranmer St Long Eaton County:
Derbyshire

(makes his second marriage abt.1897!)

Marriages Dec 1896
Shoobert Sarah Ann Stockport 8a 79
Woodman Frederick John Stockport 8a 79


Possible death for Elizabeth:-
Deaths Mar 1896 (>99%)
Woodman Elizabeth 57 Stockport 8a 70
(would make date of birth 1839)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 12:42

Yes it seems they married in Sept Q of 1870,,so why is the eldest child of their union reg as Lark in Dec q1870??
Was she preg to her first hubby when they met I wonder?

Well I cant find a one of them in 1871.!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 12:44

A bit off the wall but what about:

1871 England Census

Name: Frederick Wood
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Heavitree, Devon, England
Civil parish: Norton Fitzwarren
Town: Norton Street
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St James

Frederick Wood 24
Elizabeth Wood 21
William Jas Wood 9

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 12:45

Doesn't seem likely - looking again she was born Devon too.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Feb 2010 12:58

Which child is that FBG? This family is driving me mad!
Jan

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 25 Feb 2010 13:27

W Woodman age 10 on 1881

Births Dec 1870
--------------------------

Lark William Woodman Guisbro' 9d 444


But they married in Sept Q ,strange he is reg Lark?

Mary

Mary Report 25 Feb 2010 14:48

William Woodman born 19/12/1870 Guisborough christened 12/2/1871 Guisborough Circuit Weslyan methodist by federick and elizabeth Woodman.

Maryb