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Thankyou Viv..

Well done Moody Blue.

Really good follow through and far more "staying"power than me!
viv

Hi Moody Blue,
Thank you for all your efforts in finding information for me relating to Grace Kemp and her family. Fantastic to have so many people looking on my behalf. Excellent job!!. Hope you can help again if I need it.
Cheers.
Libby

Death

Grace Rosalind Smith born 28/12/1888
St Albans
3rd qtr 1970
vol 4b page 659

Death

Archibald C Smith age 55
Watford
2nd qtr 1944
vol 3a page 1214

Death

Hubert Aubrey C Hunt born about 1906
Lambeth
1st qtr 1971
vol 5d page 166

Sounds sad as if the person that registered the death didn't know him too well to put " about 1906" when he was not born until 1913.

And to complete the trio for 1911:-


1911 Census Household Transcript


Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
SMITH, ARCHIBALD CLAUDE BROTHER SINGLE M 22 ORDER CLERK MARYLEBONE LONDON
SMITH, KATHLEEN DAISY SISTER SINGLE F 25 DRESSMAKER OXFORD

SMITH ARCHIBALD CLAUDE (RG14PN2056 RG78PN72 RD25 SD4 ED7 SN106)
Address 3 MYATT ROAD BRIXTON S W County London
District Lambeth Subdistrict Brixton
Enumeration District 7 Parish Lambeth

Here is William Aubrey Hunt in 1911.........although he was born in Lancashire his parents are from Lambeth & Camberwell!


1911 Census Household Transcript

Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
HUNT, ARTHUR JOHN HEAD MARRIED M 61 BUSINESS TRANSFER AGENT SURREY LAMBETH
HUNT, MARY CAROLINE WIFE MARRIED 40 F 58 SURREY CAMBERWELL
HUNT, HUBERT GEORGE SON SINGLE M 24 BUSINESS TRANSFER CLERK SURREY SOUTH NORWOOD
HUNT, WILLIAM AUBREY SON SINGLE M 18 BUSINESS TRANSFER CLERK LANCASHIRE MANCHESTER
HUNT, MARY GLADYS DAUGHTER SINGLE F 16 LANCASHIRE MANCHESTER
ROBINSON, MARIA SERVANT MARRIED 48 F 74 GENERAL DOMESTIC SERVANT WORCESTERSHIRE BELIEVE BUT DONT KNOW

HUNT WILLIAM AUBREY (RG14PN2051 RG78PN72 RD25 SD4 ED2 SN288)
Address 9 CAMBERWELL NEW ROAD SE County London
District Lambeth Subdistrict Brixton
Enumeration District 2 Parish Lambeth


NOTE:-

William Aubrey Hunt also has a brother named HUBERT so highly likely that the birth of Hubert A C Hunt ( son Of Grace R & William A Hunt) that Viv found
is correct:........see below-

Births Dec 1913
HUNT HUBERT A C......mmn KEMP Lambeth 1d 797

and as Vivienne says, the" A "could stand for "Aubrey"



*****Hubert Aubrey C Hunt's death lower down on page.****

Thank you all for being so patient. You have found so much information for me I can't thank you enough!!! I will follow your instructions in the future!
Libby

Hi Libby,

No need to apologise.....I dont mind receiving personal messages.......but I thought that perhaps you were not sure how to reply on the thread plus it would be easier on you to just have one reply to do instead of many to different people and everyone gets to see your answers too.. Wasn,t getting at you. honest! Sorry if I upset you!

Brenda

Well ladies there is only one way to find out if that marriage in chorlton is THE Grace Kemp in question,for Libby to buy the certificate.

What is thought and what is fact can be 2 very different things.

Libby
To reply on here please...
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I personally no longer reply to private messages unless they are of a sensitive nature and involve living people as all info needs to be on the post/thread for all to see for them to try to be able to help.
viv
Edit
Well done Libby,it is hard when you first come on here I know,,we all have had to learn how it works!

Off to feed the menagerie,checking back later.

Hi Moody Blue,
Sorry for not doing it right! I am new to this and have now sussed it. I thought it best to reply through E-mail and you wouldn't have to trawl through everything.!!!
Libby

Moody blue, Libby doesn't seem to have the hang of replying to her thread i have asked her several times to reply on the thread and explained how to do it but she doesnt seem to grasp it.
Anyway I saw that marriage in Chorlton but discounted it as Grace was still in Camberwell in 1911 but the husband name looks promising with the second name of Aubrey however Libby thought that Grace didnt marry the father of the child Aubrey

1901 England Census
about Orchibald Claude Smith
Name: Orchibald Claude Smith
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 18 Westmorland St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 169
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline Smith 48 Widow, Dressmaker born Oxford
Kathleen Daisy Smith 15 Drapers Assistant born Blenheim
Orchibald Claude Smith 12 born Marylebone
Gertrude Clara Harris 18 neice, Nurse domeastic born Oxford
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 103; Folio: 40; Page: 21.



1891 England Census
about Claude Smith
Name: Claude Smith
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Arthur
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 80 Albany St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Regent
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Smith 41 Servant Domestic born Yorkshire
Caroline Smith 40 born Chalton Oxon
Ethel Smith 9 born Taplow Bucks
Daisey Smith 5 born Bloxham, Oxfordshire,
Claude Smith 2 born Marylebone, London,
Lilley Harris 15 niece, Servant domestic born Sy Clements Oxon
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 117; Folio 52; Page 10; GSU roll: 6095227.

Looking better an better Moody!

Possible birth for Archibald CLAUDE Smith:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Archibald Claude Smith
Name: Archibald Claude Smith
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 537



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Archibald Claud Smith
Name: Archibald Claud Smith
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 20 Jan 1889
Father's Name: Arthur Smith
Mother's Name: Caroline Smith
Parish: Saint Mary, Bryanston Square
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex



also on Ancestry:-


British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Archibald Claude Smith
Name: Archibald Claude Smith
Regiment or Corps: Kings Royal Rifle Corps
Regimental Number: R33425
rank: Private

date of enlistment: 25/04/1916
date of discharge{ 04/09/1917
cause of discharge: Para 392 XV1 K Rwds
action taken: List M 699


Paragraph 392 XV1 = No longer physically fit for war service

maybe the death of her other son Ronald C B Smith?

SMITH Ronald Claude B born 15-FEB-1922
Chiltern/Bcks
district code 3251B
register no: B12B
entry no:296
Feb 1994

Starting with the 2 marriages of the Grace R Kemp to Hunt and Grace R Hunt To Archibald Smith ones.
Depends how badly she wants to get to the bottom of it!

Hope Libby comes back to her thread.........the purchase of a couple of certificates wouldn't go amiss here.

A poss birth for William A hunt who married a Grace r Kemp in Chorlton??

Births Dec 1892 (>99%)
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Hunt William Aubrey Chorlton 8c 841

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Deaths Dec 1914 (>99%)
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Hunt William A 22 Camberwell 1d 956


All wild speculation of course!!