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Hi Colette,

Don't worry - I can see that you DID try to do it right by posting a link to this thread but it was still wrong to start another as people didn't realise from searching on the original that there was a second.!!- You were not to know - we all have to learn.

Anyway, when you get the info from the cert, please post it on the original so we can try to help you further.

Best wishes,

Dea x

Sorry I havent replied sooner been very busy at work today. Firstly let me thank you all for helping, you have uncovered a great deal and as soon as the certs come back I hope to match it up :).

I truly appreciate everything you all do, the things you find are amazing....... it takes me hours and hours maybe even days to find even one little thing.


The other thread was made after this thread, and in the new thread I did post the link to this thread so people could see what others had found in searches etc etc I thought I was doing the right thing im very sorry and I wont do it again.

Once again im sorry but thanks a million to you all, a lot of great findings there.

Will post as soon as the certs come back

Take care
Have a great day
Colette

I know what you mean Dea. But it happens so often now. Little bit of info and a whole history produced for someone and they either dont come back or come back and say, Oh, his name was Jack, not Fred.

Im too old to waste my eyes looking :) Once people come up with some solid info they have sought out then I put in my pennysworth :)

You are very wise Heather - I really MUST train myself to resist!

Unfortunately, I fear I am 'obsessed' - like a dog with a bone, as they say !!

I will work on it !!

Dea x

Im afraid I tend not to slog nowdays :) I wait for solid info to be produced first.:) to show some effort on the part of posters.

Dea,
I was thinking the same thing as Kerzit's is getting a little old to be the mother. And she sure isn't Andrew's mother (on the 1891)-I hope!!!!
Wonder what thread the marriage cert results will pop up on?????

Maureen

Just adding this for Maureen...

I have stopped exploring this one for now but just to let you know - I had a look at the 1881 image where Annie was with 'K...........".

All the others were named as sons and daughters but Annie didn't have anything there - perhaps she was a 'grandaughter'? as I can't find her on 1881 with Walter.

The baffling thing is though that there remains the birth reg which you also found! - this would still seem to fit.

Dea x

THANK YOU HEATHER !!!!!!!!!!

I do wish people would not do this - starting several threads.

My only consolation is that most of the info I have spent hours 'slogging away' to find is not already on the other thread - However it could have been a complete waste of my (and other people's) time, which makes me very angry !!

I think I will put this on hold and wait for some further info from Colette !

Dea x

Am I getting deja vu here?


Hmm

http://www.genesreunited.com/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1139193

Well spotted Maureen !!

This is strange indeed! - I didn't realise - I had seen that birth and knew it would be connected but didn't think of it as being Annie Louisa.

'Kerenthingywhatsit??' is the one I have shown living with George and Annie on 1901 in Heath Street.

I had traced that she had a son Walter born c 1857 and therefore assumed she was Annie's Grandmother !! and Robert her uncle ??

This just shows the importance of confirming with certificates as this also is a 'very good fit'!

They are obviously all from the same family!

I will explore further........

Dea x

Oddly,there's also this scenario for Annie:
1881
Name: Annie Pleasants
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Hamlet
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 130 Old Ch Rd
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
Robert Pleasants 49
Kerenhappach Pleasants 49
Robert Pleasants 29
Rebecca Pleasants 16
Adelaide Pleasants 14
Alice Pleasants 12
Harry Pleasants 10
Annie Pleasants 4
Charles Day 24
Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 476; Folio: 31; Page: 2;

1891
Name: Hannah Pleasant
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Keren H
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Dunstan
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:130 Old Church Road
Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
Household Members: Name Age
Keren H Pleasant 58
Robert Pleasant 39
Harry Pleasant 19
Hannah Pleasant 14
Andrew Pleasant 7
Thomas Needham 20
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 304; Folio 10; Page 15

FreeBMD
Marriages Mar 1851
Cockrell Kerenhappuck Colchester 12 83
Pleasants Robert Colchester 12 83

This is about the only birth that would fit with "their Annie". I wonder if she just changed her middle name??

Births Mar 1877
PLEASANTS Annie Kerenhappuch Mile End 1c 556

Oh well,the marriage cert will (hopefully) reveal all!

Maureen

Back to Annie !

Parents' marriage seems to have taken place 'after' Annie's birth:

Marriages Mar 1880 (>99%)
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BEASLEY Frances Stepney 1c 683
**Merry Rachel Stepney 1c 683
Pipe Sheridan Walter Stepney 1c 683
**Plesant Walter Stepney 1c 683
..............

This could therefore be 'your Annie?

Births Sep 1877 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MERRY Ann Stepney 1c 404

Looks like 'baby' Harvey probably became George W ?

Births Jun 1911 - must be one of these??

Harvey George W Mile End 1c 368
Harvey Harold H Mile End 1c 438

Dea x

Haven't paid to view but this looks like them on 1911: - which confirms that the 1901 census is also correct!

HOUSEHOLD HARVEY ANNIE LOUSIA F 1895 16 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY ANNIE LOUSIA F 1877 34 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY ARTHUR M 1908 3 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY BABY M 1911 7 DAYS Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY GEORGE WILLIAM M 1878 33 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY LOUSIA F 1904 7 Mile End Old Town London
HOUSEHOLD HARVEY MARY F 1900 11 Mile End Old Town London
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Dea x

This would seem to be Annie on 1891:

at 34 Old Church Road !!

1891 England Census
about Annie Pleasant
Name: Annie Pleasant
[Annie Pleasance]
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Walter
Mother's Name: Rachel
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Dunstan
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Pleasant 35 Dairy Labr.
Rachel Pleasant 32
Annie Pleasant 14 rag sorter b Stepney
Walter Pleasant 12
John Pleasant 9
George Pleasant 5
Susan Pleasant 2

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 304; Folio 4; Page 3; GSU roll: 6095414.

...................

Possible for 1901:

at 69 Heath St.

Annie W Harvey
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England



Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 144
Household Members: Name Age
George Harvey 24 Biscuit Packer b Ratcliff, London
Annie W Harvey 25
Annie Harvey 6
Jane Harvey 3
Mary Harvey 2

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 328; Folio: 98; Page: 19.

Annie's middle initial does look like 'W' but.............

ALSO LIVING WITH THEM:

Mrs. Pleasant abt 1832 Colchester, Essex, England Head Mile End Old Town, London
Robert Pleasant abt 1853 Essex, England Son Mile End Old Town, London
...............

Working back from the above info - this looks like

George + family in 1891 ??:

at 16 James Place:

George Harvey
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Anna
Gender: Male
Where born: Ratcliff, London, England

Civil Parish: Ratcliff
Ecclesiastical parish: Stepney St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Stepney
Sub registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Harvey 33 Housebreaker + Bricklayer b Mile end.
Anna Harvey 29
George Harvey 12
Charles Harvey 8
Arthur Harvey 4

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 293; Folio 31; Page 55; GSU roll: 6095403.
................
Floowing forward again to recheck -

George's mother - now a widow - at *** 127 Old Church Road. !!!!
1901:

Hannah Harvey
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wapping, London, England

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Stepney
Town: Mile End Old Town
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub registration district: Mile End, Old Town, Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 221
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Harvey 40
Arthur Harvey 14
Charles Harvey 18

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 328; Folio: 158; Page: 37.

...............

You will need the certs to confirm, of course, but it all seems to connect.

Dea x

Yeah it would make her pretty old Im just gonna have to wait until their wedding cert comes and maybe i can find out more that way

Thanks a million

1901 England Census about Annie L Harvey
Name: Annie L Harvey
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George W
Gender: Female
Where born: Westley, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
George W Harvey 24 Nothumberland
Annie L Harvey 31cambridge

This would make her 47 when she had Walter. ????

1911
HARVEY, GEORGE WILLIAM HEAD MARRIED M 34 ASSISTANT TURNCOCK BENWELL NORTHUMBERLAND
HARVEY, ANNIE LOUISA WIFE MARRIED 10 F 41 WESTON CAMBRIDGE
HARVEY, DOUGLAS GEORGE SAUL SON M 9 SCHOOL CLAPHAM SURRY

I cant find George and Annie Harvey on the 1901 census................... with the response i have so far they was married in 1894 so they should both be on the census together and as Harvey.................... any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


thanks
Colette

My Grandfather Walter was a demolision Worker

My Great Grandfather was a ship worker

Hope that helps

What was your gtgrandfather's occupation? I'm seeing a HARVEY family in 1901 who appear to be living with some PLEASANT(s).
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 328; Folio: 98; Page: 19.

Maureen