Can anyone help or make suggestions at to where I go from here ?? My Gt.gt.gt. grandmother was Caroline ? Hordon born between 1824 - 1827 in Houndleditch, London, died 21/3/1887 Harrington St; Sydney, NSW, Australia. She married Peter Andrew Johnson ( probably originally Johansson - Swedish ), in Sydney in about 1843. They had : Andrew Peter b. 1844 ( my gt. gt. grandfather ) Sophia E b. 1846 Rebecca b. 1849 William b. 1851 Joseph b. 1852-3 Caroline b. 1855 John b. 1860 Alice b. 1863. The problem I have, is that there are 4 possible maiden surnames for Caroline !! On 2 of her childrens' birth certificates, it is Hordon. On her son Andrew Peter's death certificate in 1886, it is Abrahams. On her husband's death certificate in 1886 it is Edwards, but on her own death certificate it clearly says Father : Hyam Moses, Baker Mother ; Caroline , that she was married at age 14 ! in Sydney to Peter Johnson, was born in London and had sepnt 50 years in NSW. The informant on both hers and her husband's death certificate was their son William . It may well be that she changed her Jewish surname to an Anglican one, but which one was it ? I am unable to find a record of the marriage certificate and she would have been too young to have had another marriage prior to Peter. Any suggestions please ?? Cheers Janice
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http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/UK/londweb.htm
Havve you searched this site.
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Hello Jancie, Who was the informant on the 2 childrens birth cert? was it Caroline? Who was the informant on Andrew Peter's death cert? Sons have a reputation of getting it wrong more often the daughters. If Caroline was the informant on any of them you'd know she was right. Good luck Narelle (Sydney)
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Another thought. Have you found her shipping records? She would have arrived under her maiden name Narelle
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In the English 1841, you have a real live Hyam Moses:
Name: Hyam Moses Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Where born: Foreign Parts Occupation: Confectioner Civil Parish: Christ Church Spitalfields Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Spitalfields
Hyam Moses 60 Julia Moses 15 - born in county Sophia Moses 20 - born in foreign parts
"Baker and confectioner" is a common occupational designation.
Your Caroline had a daughter named Sophia. Hyam is a widower, presumably, so unfortunately no indication of his wife's name.
A possibility!
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This could have been a son of that Hyam:
Name: Hyam Moses Year of Registration: 1838 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Whitechapel County: London, Middlesex Volume: 2 Page: 605
Or this one could have been -- this one's in the same location as the older Hyam in 1841:
Name: Hyam Moses Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Rose Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Christchurch Spitalfields County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Whitechapel Sub-registration district: Artillery ED, institution, or vessel: 3c Household schedule number: 68
Sarah Brown 18 Hyam Moses 46 Phoebe Moses 18 Rose Moses 41 Ralph Raphael 2
Actually, the Hyam Moses who died in 1838 would maybe more likely have been a son of that Hyam.
Just looking for something somewhere that would have parental info on it ...
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