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hi, can enyone help i have come to a deadend, i am trying to find my grandfathers sister and brother but knot haveing much luck.as you can see elizabeth was born 1854 northants, and william was born 1859 also northants,i can find them on the census 1861 she was 7years old and william was 4 years old living at 8,st edmunds terrace northampton, then thay moved to birmingham, but i have traced my grandfather up to date but i cannot find a trace of elizabeth or william,is there enyone that can help me kind regards val x

For reference only, is this the family?


census - address transcription
Address: 8, St Edmunds Terrace, St Giles, Northampton

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Sched Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born Original
census
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117 KNIGHT, Rebecca Head F 27 1834 Laundress
Litchborough
Northamptonshire VIEW
117 KNIGHT, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1854
Weedon
Northamptonshire VIEW
117 KNIGHT, William Son M 4 1857
Northampton VIEW
117 KNIGHT, Thomas Son M 2 1859
Northampton VIEW

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118 ROGERS, Martha Lodger Unmarried F 21 1840 Laundress
Litchborough
Northamptonshire VIEW

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119 ROYER, Harriet Lodger Unmarried F 19 1842 Dressmaker
Litchborough
Northamptonshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
934 Folio:
32 Page:
19

Registration District:
Northampton Sub District:
1 St Giles Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Edmund

Civil Parish:
St Giles Municipal Borough:
Northampton Address:
8, St Edmunds Terrace, St Giles, Northampton County:
Northamptonshire

hi jonesey, her madon name was knight, i think thay lived at 8 edmund terrace northampton, thats all i know, regards val x

hi ann, yes thats my family val x

So on the 1871 census where is the family and who does it consist of?

Annx

In 1861 it looks like Rebecca was a widow. Did she marry again?

hi ann, im knot sure, val x

hi xjuliex, yes she did,(mr george gamble) but i have that info,i found it by chance,
i know my grat, grandfather william knight born 18 ?? died but i cannot find him enywhere alive or deid, val x

no elizabeth but maybe she had alrady married or been in service


1871 England Census
about Rebbecca Gamble
Name: Rebbecca Gamble
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Litchborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household schedule number: 124
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 38
Rebbecca Gamble 37
William Gamble 14
Thomas Gamble 12

1881 England Census
about Rebecca Gamble
Name: Rebecca Gamble
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Litchbrough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: Court 1 No 2 Morville St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 53
Rebecca Gamble 50
William Knight 24 .................occupation..... stamper
Thomas R. Knight 22

1891 England Census
about Rebecca Gamble
Name: Rebecca Gamble
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Litchborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 63
Rebecca Gamble 60
William Knight 34 ..................occupation ...iron stamper
Thomas Knight 32 ...........occupation............ iron stamper

Thomas is still single in 1901 and living with his mother and step father.

Name: Thomas Knight
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Weedon, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 73
Rebecca Gamble 71
Thomas Knight 42


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2829; Folio: 76; Page: 22


1891

Name: William Knight
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 63
Rebecca Gamble 60
William Knight 34
Thomas Knight 32

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2369; Folio 71; Page 2; GSU roll: 6097479.


1881

Name: Thomas R. Knight
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Step Son
Mother's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Weedon, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: Court 1 No 2 Morville St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Brass Founder

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 53
Rebecca Gamble 50
William Knight 24
Thomas R. Knight 22

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2967; Folio: 94; Page: 24; GSU roll: 1341710.


1871

Name: Rebbecca Gamble
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Litchborough, Northamptonshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household schedule number: 124
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 38
Rebbecca Gamble 37
William Gamble 14
Thomas Gamble 12

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3101; Folio: 110; Page: 22; GSU roll: 839571

william is missing off this census maybe he married or passed away but at least it gives you a start date as when he was last with rebecca in 1891


1901 England Census
about Rebecca Gamble
Name: Rebecca Gamble
Age: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Litchborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Household Members: Name Age
George Gamble 73
Rebecca Gamble 71
Thomas Knight 42

hi jacky, thank you for the info, i am trying to find out what has happend to william knight born 1859, and his sister elizabeth knight born 1854, kind regards val x

hi jacky, thank you how can i find out what has happend to william born 1859, and elizabeth born 1854, i am at my wits end kindrgards val x

was elizabeth her full name did she hav any middle names that you know of & have you found a birth for her as i can,t find a birth
was her mother rebecca rodgers as in the 1861 census there were 2 lodgers with surname rodgers if so i think this could be a POSSIBLE marrige for elizabeth

Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)
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Knight Mary Elizabeth Rodgers Birmingham 6d 236
Madge Thomas Waldran Birmingham 6d 236


this is them in 1891 what do yo think place of birth is righ & her mother & brothers were in the same area in 1891

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Madge
Name: Elizabeth Madge
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Madge 32
Elizabeth Madge 38
Alfred Madge 15
Sidney Madge 13
Ann Madge 68
John Madge 24
Thomas Driffill 24

this could be possible death for elizabeth as she seamed to use either mary elizabeth or just elizabeth the age & area of death fits with the age of her birth


Name: Mary E Madge
Death Registration Month/Year: 1928
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Birmingham North
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 555


possible for her husbands death


Name: Thomas W Madge
Death Registration Month/Year: 1935
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d




i,m going out now but will pop back later to see what you think

There is a marriage 1853

John Knight
Rebecca Sharp on Free BMD

hi rootgatherer, i don`t know if she was born befor our after marrage ? kind regards val x

This may be the couple in the 1853 marriage posted - if so, it can't be your Rebecca.

Name: Rebecca Knight
[Rebecca Sharp]
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Mother's Name: Johannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Larick, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Shirland
Ecclesiastical parish: Shirland
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
John Knight 33
Rebecca Knight 38
Jo Hannah Knight 7 <<<<<<<<<<<<born Kettering (same place as the Knight / Sharp marriage)
Robert Knight 5
John Knight 2
Mary Knight 6 Mo
Johannah Sharp 68
William Quance 25
Luke Humphrey 16


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2526; Folio: 83; Page: 14; GSU roll: 542984