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What happened to Frederick Lark??

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Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 14:29

Hello,
There are quite a lot of people researching the Lark family tree at the moment but all of us have failed to track down what happened to Frederick or Fred Lark born on 29/03/1863 in Wickford, Essex.
Some suggested he married Martha Illett and moved to India where he had 5 children and then moved back to London before 1911, when he died. But, this marriage suggested that Frederick's father was Robert Lark, but infact his father was James Lark.
Can anyone help with what happened to Frederick Lark?
Kindest Regards,
Gardener47

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Mar 2011 14:31

Which is the last census you have actually found him on?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 14:32

1871 England Census about Frederic Lark
Name: Frederic Lark
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Lark
Mother's Name: Ann Lark
Gender: Male
Where born: Colchester, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Bexley
Ecclesiastical parish: Bexley Heath Christchurch
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Bexley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Lark 36
Ann Lark 40
Hannah Lark 18
Frederic Lark 7
Robert Lark 3
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1871 England Census about Fred Lack
Name: Fred Lack
[Fred Lark]
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Lack
Mother's Name: Mary A Lack
Gender: Male
Where born: Wickford, Essex, England
Civil parish: Wickford
Ecclesiastical parish: Woodham Ferrers
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Billericay
Sub-registration district: Wickford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members:
Name Age
James Lack 44
Mary A Lack 36
John Lack 14
Emma Lack 12
James Lack 10
Fred Lack 8
Louisa Lack 5
Arthur Lack 3
Elizabeth Lack 1
Mathew Lack 78

Cathy

Cathy Report 12 Mar 2011 14:35

1881 census - household transcription
Person: LARK, Frederick
Address: ?, Wickford
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LUKIN, William Hugo Head Married M 51 1830 Rector Of Wickford Essex Dorset
LUKIN, Emily B Daughter Single F 18 1863 Friskney Lincolnshire
LUKIN, Blanche L H Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Wickford Essex
LIVERMORE, Elizabeth Servant Single F 15 1866 Housemaid (Domestic Serv) Rawreth? Essex
LUCAS, Frances Servant Married F 20 1861 Cook (Domestic Serv) Wickford Essex
LARK, Frederick Servant Single M 18 1863 Groom (Domestic Serv) Wickford Essex

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1759 Folio:
66 Page:
17

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Mar 2011 14:35

The one born Colchester is on1911 census

LARK, Frederick Head Married M 48 1863 Pensioner Colchester Essex VIEW
LARK, Martha Wife Married
25 years F 46 1865 Huntingdon VIEW
LARK, Louisa Daughter Single F 20 1891 India Bangalore VIEW
LARK, Albert Son M 9 1902 India Bangalore VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2849 Reference:
RG14PN2849 RG78PN97 RD30 SD1 ED6 SN287

Registration District:
Woolwich Sub District:
Charlton Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Charlton and Kidbrooke

Address:
16 Troughton Road Charlton London

So that probably matches the Woolwich death

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 14:41

poss

Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
Lark Fred 32 W. Ham 4a 203

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 14:53

unless he is mispelt and still in service ?


1891 England Census about Fred Laith
Name: Fred Laith
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Withford, Essex, England
Civil parish: Chipping Barnet
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: New Barnet
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Barnet
Sub-registration district: Barnet
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Swentyman 53
Fred R Hasluck 30
Lancelot G Swentyman 29
Iney E Swentyman 27
Isabel C N Swentyman 25
Lillian A Knowles 25
Ellen Baswell 21
Sarah E Talbot 37
Agnes W Dowler 20
Florence M Wash 30
Fred Laith 28 butler
Mary A Smith 50
Thomas Rickett 33

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:00

there aren't any birth's for a fred laith so possibly could be him

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:03

So if he was living in Barnet then could he have married there?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 15:11

I cant see a marriage but I think the death I found may well be him as Barnet is not that far from West Ham ?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:14

there is a marriage in 1892 to alice haughton but he still may have died afterwards ?

Cathy

Cathy Report 12 Mar 2011 15:15

In the 1881 census there's a Louisa Lark aged 15 from Wickford Essex in the household above the one Frederick is in... Oh yes I see it's his younger sister.

The Fred Laith certainly looks like it could be him, the birthplace could well be Wickford as there doesn't appear to be a Withford in Essex?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:15

The Louisa is his older sister

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:16

Dont think he joined the army as he was born in Wickford or Billericay

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 15:19

I think the Fred born Colchester is not your Fred.

Cathy

Cathy Report 12 Mar 2011 15:31

Good find Lindsey* :-))

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 15:40

Now what happened to Alice haughton was she his wife ?

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Mar 2011 16:19



??


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elsie Lark
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 385




England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Elsie Lark
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 May 1896
Christening Date: 31 Oct 1897
Christening Place: Walthamstow, Essex, England
Age at Christening: 1
Father's Name: Fred Lark
Mother's Name: Alice


 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 16:23

now you might need a bit of imagination here

Elsie Lark born after father died ?

the rest of the children are Phillips on the image ? Will correct that.
cant see a marriage yet .



PHILLIPS, Henry Jesse Head Mar M 40 1871 Coffee House Keeper Ponterwel { pentonville]London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Alice Wife Mar
14 years F 44 1867 Barnet Herts VIEW
TARK, Elsie Daughter F 14 1897 School Walthamstow VIEW
TARK, Ivy Hilda Jessie Daughter F 13 1898 School Walthamstow VIEW
TARK, William Son M 9 1902 Wandsworth VIEW
TARK, Charles Son M 7 1904 Wandsworth VIEW
TARK, Arthur Son M 6 1905 Wandsworth VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2397 Reference:
RG14PN2397 RG78PN80 RD26 SD7 ED6 SN190

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Southfields Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Wandsworth

Address:
132 High Street Wandsworth S W County:
London

6 children all living

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 16:25

yes

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)

Lark Alice W. Ham 4a 292
Phillips Henry Jessie W. Ham 4a 292