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What happened to Frederick Lark??

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 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 13 Mar 2011 17:10

I'm not sure about this as Mabel would have been 40

but I cant see any other marriages

Births Mar 1934 (>99%)
Riley Joan E Lark Stepney 1c 168

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 23:49

this has been bugging me another daughter { census gives 6 children living }



1901 England Census about Mabel Phillips
Name: Mabel Phillips
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry J Phillips
Mother's Name: Alice Phillips
Gender: Female
Where born: Walthamstow, Essex, England
Civil parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry J Phillips 31
Alice Phillips 34
>>>>>>Mabel Phillips 6
Elsie Phillips 4
Joy { Ivy] Phillips 3
Tom Robbins 24
Lizzie Bennett 18
View
Original
Record


Births Mar 1894 (>99%)
Lark Mabel Eleanor W. Ham 4a 339

WEST, Harry Head Married M 39 1872 Baker And Confectioner Wandsworth Surrey VIEW
WEST, Marianne Kate Wife Married
15 years F 38 1873 Assisting In Business Westminster VIEW
WEST, Ernest George Son Single M 15 1896 School Wandsworth Surrey VIEW
WEST, Ethel May Daughter F 11 1900 School Wandsworth Surrey VIEW
CHAPPELL, Edith Assistant Single F 22 1889 Shop Assistant At Business Battersea Surrey VIEW
LARK, Mabel Eleanor Assistant Single F 17 1894 Shop Assistant At Business Walthamstow Essex VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2426 Reference:
RG14PN2426 RG78PN80 RD26 SD7 ED35 SN21

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Southfields Enumeration District:
35 Parish:
Wandsworth

Address:
38 High Street Wandsworth




England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Edward C Riley
Name: Edward C Riley
Spouse Surname:mabel e Lark
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919
Registration district: West Ham
Registration county (inferred): Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 373
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 19:35

last one

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Elsie Hodde
Name: Elsie Hodde
Birth Date: 19 May 1896
Death Registration Month/Year: 1979
Registration district: Waltham Forest
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 15
Page: 0976

There is a contact Phillip for william and Elsie on search trees but he may no longer be a member, worth a try.

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 16:49

maybe

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
Hodde William G Lark W.Ham 4a 328
Lark Elsie Hodde W. Ham 4a 328

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 16:36

possibly ! She was hot off the mark re marrying !

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Mar 2011 16:35



Could Alice just have been pregnant when Fred died ??

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Mar 2011 16:32



found her !

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
Name: Henry Jessie Phillips
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 26
Father's Name: Jesse Phillips
Spouse's Name: Alice Lark ****
Spouse's Age: 31
Spouse's Father's Name: Bernard Haughton ****
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1896
Marriage Place: Walthamstow, Essex, England








 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 16:25

yes

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)

Lark Alice W. Ham 4a 292
Phillips Henry Jessie W. Ham 4a 292

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 16:23

now you might need a bit of imagination here

Elsie Lark born after father died ?

the rest of the children are Phillips on the image ? Will correct that.
cant see a marriage yet .



PHILLIPS, Henry Jesse Head Mar M 40 1871 Coffee House Keeper Ponterwel { pentonville]London VIEW
PHILLIPS, Alice Wife Mar
14 years F 44 1867 Barnet Herts VIEW
TARK, Elsie Daughter F 14 1897 School Walthamstow VIEW
TARK, Ivy Hilda Jessie Daughter F 13 1898 School Walthamstow VIEW
TARK, William Son M 9 1902 Wandsworth VIEW
TARK, Charles Son M 7 1904 Wandsworth VIEW
TARK, Arthur Son M 6 1905 Wandsworth VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2397 Reference:
RG14PN2397 RG78PN80 RD26 SD7 ED6 SN190

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Southfields Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Wandsworth

Address:
132 High Street Wandsworth S W County:
London

6 children all living

Choccy

Choccy Report 12 Mar 2011 16:19



??


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elsie Lark
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 385




England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Elsie Lark
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 May 1896
Christening Date: 31 Oct 1897
Christening Place: Walthamstow, Essex, England
Age at Christening: 1
Father's Name: Fred Lark
Mother's Name: Alice


 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 15:40

Now what happened to Alice haughton was she his wife ?

Cathy

Cathy Report 12 Mar 2011 15:31

Good find Lindsey* :-))

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 15:19

I think the Fred born Colchester is not your Fred.

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:16

Dont think he joined the army as he was born in Wickford or Billericay

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:15

The Louisa is his older sister

Cathy

Cathy Report 12 Mar 2011 15:15

In the 1881 census there's a Louisa Lark aged 15 from Wickford Essex in the household above the one Frederick is in... Oh yes I see it's his younger sister.

The Fred Laith certainly looks like it could be him, the birthplace could well be Wickford as there doesn't appear to be a Withford in Essex?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:14

there is a marriage in 1892 to alice haughton but he still may have died afterwards ?

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 12 Mar 2011 15:11

I cant see a marriage but I think the death I found may well be him as Barnet is not that far from West Ham ?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:03

So if he was living in Barnet then could he have married there?

Gardener47

Gardener47 Report 12 Mar 2011 15:00

there aren't any birth's for a fred laith so possibly could be him