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I am trying to find a William Locock, married Emily Agnes Laker in 1916, Southwark in London. I cannot find his birth. I found from Ancestry his father was called Alfred, but as there are that many Williams and Alfred's I am having difficulty finding this family. Thanks in advance :)

Well, we're all going to have the same problem unless we have extra information, such as Alfred's occupation. You can get this from the marriage cert of William and Emily Agnes.

Let's hope he's a Bee Keeper or a Vicar :-)

I can't view their cert on Ancestry, I can only see the summary on there. I think my subscription is too low for me to view it. Does anyone else on here have more than the basic subscription to view the certificate?

Vicki


No-one can view a birth certificate, nor a marriage or a death certificate

You see the quarter and year of registration, place of registration, and 2 numbers (vol and page numbers) on ancestry

...... or on www.freebmd.org.uk, which is the FREE site


Then you have to BUY the certificate from www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


Each certificate will cost £7


Do NOT under any circumstances order certificates through ancestry ....... they will charge you much more than £7



A marriage certificate will tell you the ages of bride and groom, marital status at date of marriage, occupation, address, names of the two fathers, and names of the witnesses, as well as the place where they were married.



sylvia

Ah rite ok Sylvia I didn't know if I couldn't view it just because of my subscription! Thanks for all your help, I am drawing a blank with these people at the moment.

Here's the marriage of William Locock and Emily Agnes Laker on Ancestry -


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: William Locock
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Spouse Name: Emily Agnes Laker
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Nov 1916
Parish: All Souls, Newington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Alfred Locock - occupation - Munition Worker
Spouse Father Name: John Laker - occupation - Carman



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, All Saints, Walworth, Register of marriages, P92/ALL1, Item 038


William is a Private in the Royal Fusiliers.

Address at time of marriage - 3 Akers Street.

Witnesses were Ada Marian Laker and Lily Addison.

Thanks choccy! That's a massive help xx

This looks likely to be them on 1911:

LOCOCK, Alfred Edward Head Married M 42 1869 Unemployed, Also Pensioner late Royal Navy Dartmouth
LOCOCK, Ellen Wife Married 22 years F 42 1869 Walwick
LOCOCK, William Son Single M 18 1893 Electrical Fittings And Gen. Electr. work, Portsmouth
LOCOCK, Ellen May Daughter Single F 16 1895 Chemist Packer Gosport
LOCOCK, Dorothy Ellen Daughter F 8 1903 School Queensferry N B

8,Gray St Waterloo Road S E , Souwark, London

Dea x

1901 England Census
Name: Alfred Locock
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Member Of Crew (Member)
Gender: Male
Where born: Dartmouth, Devon, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Portland
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Portland
ED, institution, or vessel: Anson
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age


Alfred Locock 32


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1998; Folio: 143; Page: 3.


Alfred is one of many !

No sign of William -


1901 England Census
Name: Ellen M Locock
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Gillingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Gillingham St Barnabas
Town: New Brompton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Medway
Sub-registration district: Gillingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 271
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Locock 32
Ellen M Locock 5




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 737; Folio: 112; Page: 40.

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Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
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*****Locock Alfred Edward Alverstoke 2b 961
*****O'FALLON Ellen Alverstoke 2b 961
WARMINGTON Emeline Maria Alverstoke 2b 961
WATT Charles Alfred Alverstoke 2b 961

1891 England Census
Name: Ellen Fallon (Locock on original)
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Fallon 61
Jane Fallon 29
Alex Miller 4
Thomas Miller 1
Ellen Fallon 23 (Locock on original)
James Slater 63
Mary Slater 62
Frances Neale 25




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 881; Folio 22; Page 1; GSU roll: 6095991.

Wow thank you Dea & Choccy! I wonder where William is on the birth records though I couldn't find his for 1892/3, so will look at 1894 as well. I don't have access to 1911 census and I have been stuck all last night looking for this family! I am eternally grateful xx

I am very confused as to where William would be on the 1901 census, especially as he is only 7! Could he be at boarding school or with grandparents?

This could be him. At first sight it does look like Alcock until I realised that the person completing the census does capital "A" like a large round small "a". It doesn't quite look like Locock, more like Llcock. But the person did have 18 pages of names to write. Although the place is described as an Asylum, it is in fact a children's hospital.

1901 England Census
about William Alcock
Name: William Alcock
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: School Boy
Gender: Male
Where born: England

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Gray's Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: Foundling Hospital

I'm not too certain now that it was a hospital. There are about 350 children age 5-15, about 8 teachers, 10 "nurse domestic"s, and 30 laundrymaids, cooks etc.

EDIT - from the staff it doesn't sound like they were a problematic lot of residents.

Thanks for that MadMeg, quite possibly him, I was confused as I thought he'd have been with his mum and sister at that age and he's not on 1901 census with them.

You can possibly get the records of the establishment (for a fee) from the main library of that area or an archives office. They might tell you how he came to be there and why. My guess is it's some sort of boarding school - a lot of children of men serving in the forces were placed in such schools.

I am looking for Alfred's parents' marriage if anyone can help? His father is called Henry Locock (born 1832) and his wife is Phillippa. They have very possibly married in the Devon/Cornwall area. I am struggling to find a marriage for them, so I would be very grateful if anyone can help? xx

Hi vicki,
Came across this entry on Freebmd,which is a free site,anyone can search,
hope this helps

Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
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BEADLE George Henry Stoke D 5b 581
BURT Laura Ann Stoke D 5b 581
Locock Henry Stoke D 5b 581
Pearce Philippa Stoke.D 5b 581
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