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Richard May 1805 was my g.g.grandfather. He and Maria his wife were both born in the City of London, then in Middlesex county. He was a cheese monger and they lived at 145 Kingsland Road, Shoreditch, Tower Hamlets in 1841 & 1851. They had four children - Richard Bawtree May dob.10 July 1837, Elizabeth Maria 1840, Priscilla 1844 and Maria 1847, all born in Shoreditch. Can anyone go further back than 1805 and tell me where my May family line came from? Many thanks. Rosalind May.

Just checked the original marriage documaent. One of the witnesses is Maria Ann Bawtree, so this might be the baptism for Maria

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Maria Bawtree
Name: Maria Bawtree
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1819
Baptism Date: 3 Oct 1819
Father's Name: Thos James Bawtree
Mother's Name: Maria Ann Bawtree
Parish or Poor Law Union: St John Zachary
Borough: City of London

Born 10 Oct 1808

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The other witness on the marriage is a May, but for the life of me I cannot read the first name.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Richard May
Name: Richard May
Spouse Name: Maria Bawtree
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 15 Feb 1829
Parish: St George the Martyr, Queen Square
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden



Maria appears to have had siblings Amelia and Harriett

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London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812
about Richard May
Name: Richard May
Baptism Date: 15 Sep 1805 birth Aug 19, 1805
Parish: St Mary Stratford Bow
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Parent(s): Richard May,
Rosanna May
Record Type: Baptism

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Richard Moore May

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 12 Oct 1804
residence: London, England
parents: Richard May, Sarah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Richard Moore May
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 Dec 1804
baptism/christening place: SAINT MARTIN IN THE FIELDS,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 12 Oct 1804
father's name: Richard May
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C03721-3
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 561144

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Richard May

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: London, England
parents: William May, Elizabeth

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Richard May
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 07 Apr 1805
baptism/christening place: SAINT ANDREW,HOLBORN,LONDON,ENGLAND
father's name: William May
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: P01051-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374355

Hello there,
Thank you all very much. I could not read the May christian name on the marriage certificate either!!! Polly/Tolby & Chesnae/chemae/chernae (which is likely to be a followdown family name). Richard.1804 at St.Martin in the Fields sounds too posh. There were lots of Mays and some Bawtrees around that area at the right time but they were all poor; some in the workhouse and one in jail. I am inclined to think it was William and Elizabeth, rather than Richard and Rosanna. I don't know why ,except that name has turned up more often, but I can not find any proof. Off the top of my head , I think William ended up in the Robert Ask's Hospital; and an Amelia Bawtree was in the work house. Maria Ann Bawtree must have been Maria's mother or perhaps a cousin. In the latter case she could have had a daughter of her own born in 1819 called Maria. My g.g.grandmother Maria was born in c.1810. What do I do next? Ros.

June 17th
I have found a fourth cousin once removed!! who says it was Williiam but have yet to discover the details. How do you find the details of families before 1841, when your ancester was newly married and move on? A clue seems to be the Haberdashers Company. Do the old livery companies keep records and how would you access those? Ros.

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Amelia Bawtree
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 14 Feb 1814
residence: 1814 —London, England
parents: Thos. James Bawtree, Maria Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Amelia Bawtree
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Oct 1819
baptism/christening place: ST JOHN ZACHARY,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 14 Feb 1814
father's name: Thos. James Bawtree
mother's name: Maria Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455

Henry Bawtree
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 14 Dec 1815
residence: 1815 —London, England
parents: Thos James Bawtree, Maria Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Henry Bawtree
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Oct 1819
baptism/christening place: ST JOHN ZACHARY,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 14 Dec 1815
father's name: Thos James Bawtree
mother's name: Maria Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455

Sarah Bawtree
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 29 Sep 1817
residence: 1817 —London, England
parents: Thos. James Bawtree, Maria Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sarah Bawtree
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Oct 1819
baptism/christening place: ST JOHN ZACHARY,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 29 Sep 1817
father's name: Thos. James Bawtree
mother's name: Maria Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455

Thomas James Bawtree
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 26 Jan 1803 —St Mary'S, Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
spouse: Maria Ann Wood

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Thomas James Bawtree
bride's name: Maria Ann Wood
marriage date: 26 Jan 1803
marriage place: St Mary'S, Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
indexing project (batch) number: M00066-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 94701

Harriott Bawtree
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 20 Jan 1812
residence: 1812 —London, England
parents: Thos. James Bawtree, Maria Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Harriott Bawtree
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Oct 1819
baptism/christening place: ST JOHN ZACHARY,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 20 Jan 1812
father's name: Thos. James Bawtree
mother's name: Maria Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455

Thos Bawtree
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 18 Jun 1810
residence: 1810 —London, England
parents: Thos Jas Bawtree, Maria Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Thos Bawtree
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 22 Jul 1810
baptism/christening place: SAINT GILES CRIPPLEGATE,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 18 Jun 1810
father's name: Thos Jas Bawtree
mother's name: Maria Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02577-9
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 380209

Maria Bawtree
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

birth: 10 Oct 1808
residence: 1808 —London, England
parents: Thos. James Bawtree, Maria Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Maria Bawtree
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Oct 1819
baptism/christening place: ST JOHN ZACHARY,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 10 Oct 1808
father's name: Thos. James Bawtree
mother's name: Maria Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455

connection?

Richard May
England Marriages, 1538–1973

marriage: 13 Aug 1786 —Saint John Zachary With Saint Anne And Saint Agnes, London, London, England
spouse: Mary Ann Gray

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Richard May
bride's name: Mary Ann Gray
marriage date: 13 Aug 1786
marriage place: Saint John Zachary With Saint Anne And Saint Agnes,London,London,England
indexing project (batch) number: M02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455

I think the above could be your Richard's g.grandfather?

Mary May
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: London, England
parents: Richard May, Mary Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Mary May
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 Feb 1794
baptism/christening place: ST JOHN ZACHARY,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
father's name: Richard May
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455

Maria Elizabeth May
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: London, England
parents: Richd. May, Mary Ann

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Maria Elizabeth May
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 13 Jun 1792
baptism/christening place: ST JOHN ZACHARY,LONDON,LONDON,ENGLAND
father's name: Richd. May
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C02246-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 374455