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Teresa

Teresa Report 1 Sep 2009 21:53

Hi there. I am at the moment trying to trace this link in the family. Lady callled Eva Ada Casbolt, nee Bartlett born in Wickford in 1903. Her mother was Elizabeth Bartlett, married to a James. Elizabeths maiden name was Smith. Her mother maiden name was Michelinburg, Michleberg, something like this (not sure how it is spelled. I cannot get a grip on where to start. Can anyone throw me a lifeline?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 21:59

Since Wickford is Ireland, I'm assuming, you may drown before any of us can help! ;)

Can you tell us why you're looking for her -- what is your connection, what do you know for absolute sure? The name/marriage of a child of hers maybe?

That's where you have to start: with what you know for sure. We might be able to help figure out how to go back from there!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:00

Aha. A fact:

Marriages Jun 1929
Bartlett Eva A (Casbolt) Billericay 4a 1299
CASBOLT John W H (Bartlett) Billericay 4a 1299

June

June Report 1 Sep 2009 22:01

Name: Eva Ada Bartlett
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Billericay
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 688 (click to see others on page)






1901 is this the family

Name: James Bartlett
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wickford, Essex, England

Civil parish: Wickford
Ecclesiastical parish: Wickford
Town: Wickford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Billericay
Sub-registration district: Wickford
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
James Bartlett 39
Elizabeth Bartlett 34 Havering, Essex
Richard Bartlett 7
R J Bartlett 5
Elizabeth Bartlett 3




June x

Teresa

Teresa Report 1 Sep 2009 22:01

Ok Wickford in Essex, uk. My husbands family. I have spoken tonight to his aunt who told me that her mother was Eva, and Evas mother was German but the name is Michleburg. This was her maiden name.

Teresa

Teresa Report 1 Sep 2009 22:04

Yes June, this is correct. I have this info. Eva was the oldest resident in Wickford when she died. A lovely lady. I am just wanting to put together the tree on this side. The Bartletts all came from Wickford/Dagenham areas. It is this German lady I want to trace. Elizabeth Bartlet had a sister called Mariah. So Smith is the maiden name. I am looking at the mo but nothing on it.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:05

This looks like Eva in 1911:

BARTLETT EVA 1903 8 Billericay Essex

and the rest of her household:

BARTLETT JUR 1862 49 Billericay Essex
BARTLETT ELIZA 1867 44 Billericay Essex
BARTLETT ELIZABETH 1898 13 Billericay Essex
BARTLETT JAMES 1896 15 Billericay Essex

JUR, hm. Maybe "Jas"?

You can search for them here:

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

but you have to buy credits to view the original record. (No subscriptions are available, so it's not something anyone can do for you w/o paying.)

June

June Report 1 Sep 2009 22:05

1891

Name: James Bartlett
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Wickford, Essex, England

Civil parish: Wickford
Ecclesiastical parish: Wickford
Town: Wickford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Billericay
Sub-registration district: Wickford
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Bartlett 74
Mary Ann Bartlett 53
James Bartlett 29
Moses Bartlett 25
Levi Bartlett 21
Herbert Bartlett 19
Samuel Chandler 77




June x

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:07

Teresa - you had that info. No one else did. For someone to try to assist in a search, we need all the info. Like the dates of birth, family members' names, etc. If you don't offer it, we have to go looking for it.

Teresa

Teresa Report 1 Sep 2009 22:08

Thanks ladies. I have this info on the Bartletts already. With names of Moses and Herbert which I got tonight, they were the easy ones. Any ideas on the German lady??

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:12

Teresa, can you sort it out a bit?

You started by saying:

[Eva's] mother was Elizabeth Bartlett, married to a James.
Elizabeths maiden name was Smith.
Her mother maiden name was Michelinburg, Michleberg,

but now you have said:

Evas mother was German but the name is Michleburg.
This was her maiden name.


That's a contradiction.

Does it go like this?

Ms. Michelburg (sp) married Smith
was the mother of
Elizabeth Smith married Bartlett
was the mother of
Eva Ada Bartlett

?

Teresa

Teresa Report 1 Sep 2009 22:14

Sorry Jayne. Yes that is correct. Eva Bartlett, maiden name, was daughter of Elizabeth Smith, maiden name. Elizabeths mother was Michelburg, maiden name.
Confusing myself.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:17

Problem is ... there's no marriage in Essex of James Bartlett + Elizabeth Smith.

Do you have that info at all?

Teresa

Teresa Report 1 Sep 2009 22:17

The dates I have on Eva are: born in Jan 1903 in Wickford
Elizabeth was 34 on 1901 census.
So goong back, she was born around 1868ish, so her mother would surely show on a census around 1870??
Wickford is also sometimes coming under Billericay in Essex, for registrations in that area

Teresa

Teresa Report 1 Sep 2009 22:19

The first children of Elizabeth were born in 1890. There were James, Richard Lizzy and Eva was the youngest. I am positive they would have been married in Wickford

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:19

Well, I don't see her on the 1871! It's not that I hadn't looked ...

June

June Report 1 Sep 2009 22:22

maybe marriage but elizabeth is not on the list

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bartlett James Billericay 4a 539
Neville Eliza Charlotte Billericay 4a 539



will check this out for you

June x

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:25

Aha.

Marriages Dec 1888
NEVILLE Henry Billericay 4a 495
SMITH Eliza Charlotte Billericay 4a 495


Eliza/Elizabeth was previously married to Neville and married Bartlett as Neville?


A sadly brief marriage:

Deaths Mar 1890
Neville Henry 25 Billericay 4a 249

June

June Report 1 Sep 2009 22:29

Name: Eliza Charlotte Smith
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Maldon (1837-1972)
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 223 (click to see others on page)






1891

Name: Eliza C Neville
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Holstead, Essex, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: North Brixton St Johns
Town: Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elliot Gough 38
Frances T Gough 43
Percy E Gough 11
Francis E J Gough 10
Robert E Gough 3
Constance N Gough 36
Eliza C Neville 24 widow
Emily Honey 24


June x

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 1 Sep 2009 22:30

Looks like that birth cert is the only likely source of info ... with a name like Smith!

But I think we've dunnit to there. ;)