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mozart1

mozart1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:01

I'm trying to find out the name of my grandmother's mother and father.
My grandmother elizabeth a mills born in 1895 monmouthshire is on the 1901 census aged 6
and listed as the grandaughter of a family named holley, there is no mention of her parents. We have never heard of the holley connection to our family.
Could someone who has access to the 1911 census please tell me if she is listed at all and if the 1911 census shows the name of her parents.
Many thanks
Brian

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:08

HOUSEHOLD MILLS ELIZABETH A F 1895 16 Bedwellty Monmouthshire


These are all people who have Elizabeth in the household, you would need to buy credits to see family as I'm sure not all belong to the same family!

HOUSEHOLD MILLS ANN F 1905 6 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS ANNIE F 1903 8 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS ARTHUR M 1897 14 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS ARTHUR M 1900 11 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS CHARLES M 1879 32 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS DORRIS F 1905 6 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS DORRIS MAY F 1907 4 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS EDWIN JOHN M 1910 10 MONTHS Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS ELIZABETH F 1910 1 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS ELIZABETH F 1881 30 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS ELIZABETH F 1874 37 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS EMMA F 1907 4 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS ISAIAH M 1909 2 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS JOHN M 1875 36 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS JOSEPH M 1884 27 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS LOUISA F 1903 8 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS MARGERRY MAY F 1909 2 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS MINNIE F 1901 10 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS SARAH ANN F 1878 33 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS TOM M 1871 40 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS WILLIAM M 1881 30 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS WILLIAM EHNRY M 1866 45 Bedwellty Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD MILLS WILLIAM THOMAS M 1896 15 Bedwellty Monmouthshire


Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:15

Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
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CARTER Harry George Chepstow 11a 7
Holley Clara Chepstow 11a 7
Mills Charles Edwin B Chepstow 11a 7
Morgan Frances Sarah Chepstow 11a 7

Cassy

mozart1

mozart1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:17

Appreciate very much the list of mills you have posted but I'm still baffled about the Holley connection to the family If one of the Holley family sons
is her father she would have been listed as a Holley and not Mills as per 1901 Census.
I'm still confused.

Many thanks
Brian

K

K Report 30 Aug 2009 13:17

I wonder if Elizabeth's father had died

Deaths Mar 1895 (>99%)
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Mills Charles Edwin B 38 Chepstow 11a 4

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:18

Name: Clara Holley
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales

Civil parish: Chepstow
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: 2 Mosleyn Court
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Servant

Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Chepstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Holley 39
Caroline Holley 40
William Holley 16
Clara Holley 13
George Holley 11
Thomas Holley 8
Arthur Holley 6
Charles D. Holley 3
Sidney Holley





Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5219; Folio: 8; Page: 10; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342258.

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:21

possible Caroline is her maturnal grandmother??

Name: Elizabeth Mills
Age in 1901: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Chepstow
Ecclesiastical parish: Chepstow
Town: Chepstow
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Chepstow
Sub-registration district: Chepstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Holley 60
Charles Holley 23
Matthew Holley 17
Elizabeth Mills 6






Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4917; Folio: 52; Page: 16.

Source Information:

Cassy

K

K Report 30 Aug 2009 13:21

It looks like the Hooleys were grandparents on Elizabeth's mother's side of the family.

Liverbird posted a marriage of Clara Hooley to Charles Edwin Mills in 1892 who may be Elizabeth's parents and Charles Edwin died pre 1901

K

K Report 30 Aug 2009 13:31

1901 - Elizabeth's mother working as a cook - she is listed as a widow


Name: Clara Miele(actually says Mills)
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Mons, Chepstow

Civil parish: Leckhamstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Leckhamstead
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Manor Farm

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Newbury
Sub-registration district: Speen
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Charles C Medhurst 36 Farmer's Bailiff
Emily Cullimore 67
Clara Miele 34
Ellen C Spory 26
Edith K Lelacheur 24

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:33

her poss birth?

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Mills Elizabeth Newport M 11a 225

cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:35

wonder if she remarried??

Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>Dallimore Thomas William Newport, M. 11a 415
Jenkins Barbara Ada Newport, M. 11a 415
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mills Clara Newport, M. 11a 415
Silverthorn Henry Cecil Newport, M. 11a 415

Cassy

EDIT

Births Mar 1879 (>99%)
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Dallimore Thomas William Newport, M. 11a 198

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:39

1911

HOUSEHOLD DALLIMORE CLARA F 1868 43 Chepstow Monmouthshire


specified Clara in the household


HOUSEHOLD DALLIMORE BEATRICE F 1903 8 Chepstow Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD DALLIMORE ROSE MARY F 1908 3 Chepstow Monmouthshire


Cassy

EDIT

Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
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Dallimore Rose Mary Newport, M. 11a 256


Births Jun 1903 (>99%)
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DALLIMORE Beatrice Clara Newport M 11a 223


?????

HOUSEHOLD DALLIMORE THOMAS W M 1877 34 Bedwellty Monmouthshire

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 30 Aug 2009 13:45

Oddly,this person also turns up in that household (I think!!):
MILLS AMELIA E J F 1895 16 Chepstow Monmouthshire
Edit-In the 1911 census.
Maureen

K

K Report 30 Aug 2009 13:46

I wonder if Elizabeth's mother remarried? In the 1911 census Clara Dallimore is listed as born in Chepstow in 1867 and there is a possible marriage below

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
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>>>Dallimore Thomas William Newport, M. 11a 415
Jenkins Barbara Ada Newport, M. 11a 415
>>>Mills Clara Newport, M. 11a 415
Silverthorn Henry Cecil Newport, M. 11a 415


It looks like Thomas died

Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
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DALLIMORE Thomas William 29 Newport M. 11a


And in 1911 Clara Dallimore was living with

DALLIMORE BEATRICE F 1903 8 Chepstow Monmouthshire
DALLIMORE ROSE MARY F 1908 3 Chepstow Monmouthshire
MILLS AMELIA E J F 1895 16 Chepstow Monmouthshire

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:49

Maureen
think you're right

specified with Amelia in the household gives

HOUSEHOLD DALLIMORE BEATRICE F 1903 8 Chepstow Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD DALLIMORE CLARA F 1868 43 Chepstow Monmouthshire
HOUSEHOLD DALLIMORE ROSE MARY F 1908 3 Chepstow Monmouthshire

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 30 Aug 2009 13:51

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Mills Amelia Elizabeth J Chepstow 11a 5


Cassy

K

K Report 30 Aug 2009 14:02

Ameila's marriage?

Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Mills Amelia E J Lloyd Chepstow 11a 5

mozart1

mozart1 Report 31 Aug 2009 14:27

To Cassy and Liverbird

Elizabeth A Mills married my late grandfather Charles Roberts just after the 1st world war, 1918 I think, not to E J Lloyd. Went on to have six children one of which was my mother and lived in the Oswestry area Shropshire the home of my grandfather Charles Mills.
Charles was in the army 1914-1918 and when he returned from the Somme he was posted to army barracks near Monmouth and that's near where he met his future wife my Grandmother Elizabeth A Mills.
My mother also told me this morning that Elizabeth, her mother was also known as Annie.

I was also informed this morning that my grandmother also had a sister called Ada,
could have been a half sister if her mother re-married.
There was also a Aunt Ginny and a uncle Tom somewhere in the family.

Best Regards (I really appreciate what all of you are doing for me)
Brian

mozart1

mozart1 Report 31 Aug 2009 14:30

Sorry, mistake on previous post.
To Liverbird and Cassie,
ref my last post,
I meant to say Elizabeth married Charles Roberts not Charles Mills
in or around 1918.

Regards
Brian

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 31 Aug 2009 14:33

This looks like her marriage.

This may name her father to confirm the findings.


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Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
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Mills Annie E Roberts Newport M 11a 574
Roberts Charles Mills Newport M 11a 574

Christine