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Ada came to england with parents Annie and Tommy Murphy, and sisters Nora, Rose and Mary.
She Married James Johns in London 1928,
they had 5 children
Ronnie, Edwin(Ted), Jimmy, Freddie and margie(Margaret)
Ada died in london 1975
cant find any trace of family in Ireland, or when they came to England
PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!

You can check the 1901 and 1911 Irish census for free here


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

If you need help just shout

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i tried that but couldn't find them

Have you got the marriage cert to check the details?


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Ada A Murphy
Name: Ada A Murphy
Spouse Surname: Johns
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Poplar
Registration county (inferred): Middlesex
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 718
Find Spouse: James T

that's all i could go back to for Ada,
can't trace her back any further than this marriage,

Have you got the marriage certificate?

no, i haven't unfortunately

INSTITUTION MURPHY ADA F 1899 12 Hampstead London

HOUSEHOLD MURPHY ANNIE FRANCES F 1853 58 Hampstead London

There is a Rose and a Nora with her on the above 1911. I dont have full access to check, maybe someone will help

thanks, i'll try this thread x

Here you go. Born Colchester

MURPHY, Ada Inmate F 12 1899 School Colchester VIEW


Address:
Bartrams Hampstead Green Hampstead N W County:
London

The Rose and Norah appear to be unrelated

thanks, but i'm not sure this is her, her son is still alive and insists she came over from ireland with her 3 sisters, also on her death certificate it states she was born 1897, i know her birthday was 5th November,
thanks for your help x

You really need to buy the marriage certificate. Remember that details on a death certificate are only as good as the informants knowledge.

I just cant see where she would be if she is not on the Eng/Irish 1901/1911

Is this where you got her birth from?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ada Agnes Johns
Name: Ada Agnes Johns
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Poplar & Bethnal Green
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1367

does the marriage certificate state place of birth?
i'm a novice, sorry, but how do i buy a certificate? x

The marriage certificate will not give her place of birth but will give her age and the name and occupation of her father. And the witnesses may be other family members.

i remembered her birthday was 5th november as she was my grandmother, i was only young when she died but i remember having to miss bonfire night as it was nans birthday!!
it's very difficult searching the irish census unless you know the county to search

I was wondering about this one. But she wasn't born in Ireland.
Could Honorah be Norah?

Ada Murphy
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Murphy
Mother's Name: Ann Murphy
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, London, England
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch South Hackney
County/Island: London
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Murphy 29
Ann Murphy 27
Honorah Murphy 5
Ada Murphy 3
Thomas Murphy 1

By 1911 there is a sister Mary but no Rose

MURPHY, Thomas Head Married M 38 1873 Potman Stepney London VIEW
MURPHY, Ann Elizabeth Wife Married
16 years F 36 1875 Whitechapel London VIEW
MURPHY, Henorah Daughter Single F 15 1896 Feather Curler Limehouse London VIEW
MURPHY, Ada Daughter F 13 1898 School Whitechapel London VIEW
MURPHY, Thomas Son M 11 1900 School Whitechapel London VIEW
MURPHY, Mary Daughter F 6 1905 Shoreditch London VIEW

Address:
6 Tenbury Place County:
London

Astra

I kept being drawn to that census you have posted. I think that may well be the family

i'll see if i can find them on the 1911 census, the other 2 sisters would have been born by then, fingers crossed this is her! thanks x