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The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
[Not heard of any release dates for next census (=1926 in both Irelands)]

Most City of Dublin parish registers are free online at:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

you're all fantastic!!
thanks, xx

Sorry Ginny had to leave for a while.

I'm still not sure whether Annie Bass is the right one or not.

Hopefully the marriage certificate of Ada will solve the problem

1891

Name: Annie Bass
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Where born: Whitechapel, London, England

Civil parish: Whitechapel St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Mile End New Town
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Steer 42
Elizabeth Steer 30
Charles Steer 5
James Steer 3
Margaret Steer 2
Jessie Steer 9
Annie Bass 16

Doesn't look like that Annie had a middle name but then people have been known to add one!

Births Jun 1876
Bass Ann Whitechapel 1c 327

Just thinking out loud


Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
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Dolan Annie Marylebone 1a 1274
HUTCHINS Henry David Marylebone 1a 1274
Lowman Gertrude Marylebone 1a 1274
Murphy Thomas Marylebone 1a 1274




1891 England Census
about Annie Dolan
Name: Annie Dolan
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Price 34
Jessie Henwood 28
Amy Bones 21
Annie Dolan 21
Charles Turvey 20

There is a possible marriage between Thomas Joseph Murphy and Annie Bass

Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%)
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>>Bass Annie Stepney 1c 636
Blake George William Stepney 1c 636
>>Murphy Thomas Joseph Stepney 1c 636
Solomon Cecelia Stepney 1c 636


and the birth of a Rose E Murphy MMN Bass in 1912

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Murphy Rose E Bass Stepney 1c 610

Honorah and Norah are interchangeable. My Grandmother was named Hanora but only ever known as Norah.

That looks really hopeful Astra.

Gillian to buy a marriage certificate, register online at the GRO. The certificate can be ordered online from there using the Volume number and page number which you have been given. Do not oreder it elsewhere as it will be more expensive because other companies charge a "markup" price.

i'll see if i can find them on the 1911 census, the other 2 sisters would have been born by then, fingers crossed this is her! thanks x

Astra

I kept being drawn to that census you have posted. I think that may well be the family

By 1911 there is a sister Mary but no Rose

MURPHY, Thomas Head Married M 38 1873 Potman Stepney London VIEW
MURPHY, Ann Elizabeth Wife Married
16 years F 36 1875 Whitechapel London VIEW
MURPHY, Henorah Daughter Single F 15 1896 Feather Curler Limehouse London VIEW
MURPHY, Ada Daughter F 13 1898 School Whitechapel London VIEW
MURPHY, Thomas Son M 11 1900 School Whitechapel London VIEW
MURPHY, Mary Daughter F 6 1905 Shoreditch London VIEW

Address:
6 Tenbury Place County:
London

I was wondering about this one. But she wasn't born in Ireland.
Could Honorah be Norah?

Ada Murphy
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Murphy
Mother's Name: Ann Murphy
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, London, England
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch South Hackney
County/Island: London
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Murphy 29
Ann Murphy 27
Honorah Murphy 5
Ada Murphy 3
Thomas Murphy 1

i remembered her birthday was 5th november as she was my grandmother, i was only young when she died but i remember having to miss bonfire night as it was nans birthday!!
it's very difficult searching the irish census unless you know the county to search

The marriage certificate will not give her place of birth but will give her age and the name and occupation of her father. And the witnesses may be other family members.

does the marriage certificate state place of birth?
i'm a novice, sorry, but how do i buy a certificate? x

I just cant see where she would be if she is not on the Eng/Irish 1901/1911

Is this where you got her birth from?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ada Agnes Johns
Name: Ada Agnes Johns
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1897
Death Registration Month/Year: 1975
Registration district: Poplar & Bethnal Green
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1367

You really need to buy the marriage certificate. Remember that details on a death certificate are only as good as the informants knowledge.

thanks, but i'm not sure this is her, her son is still alive and insists she came over from ireland with her 3 sisters, also on her death certificate it states she was born 1897, i know her birthday was 5th November,
thanks for your help x

Here you go. Born Colchester

MURPHY, Ada Inmate F 12 1899 School Colchester VIEW


Address:
Bartrams Hampstead Green Hampstead N W County:
London

The Rose and Norah appear to be unrelated

thanks, i'll try this thread x

INSTITUTION MURPHY ADA F 1899 12 Hampstead London

HOUSEHOLD MURPHY ANNIE FRANCES F 1853 58 Hampstead London

There is a Rose and a Nora with her on the above 1911. I dont have full access to check, maybe someone will help