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Nish - Wigtownshire Scotland

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Julcoe

Julcoe Report 17 Mar 2009 13:16

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Grace Isabella Nish
Name: Grace Isabella Nish
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1919 <<<<<<<<<<
State: Victoria
District: Kooyong
Subdistrict: Glenferrie
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. 397 Glenferrie Rd., Glenferrie

Grace Isabella Nish b. 1897 ; d. 1979 as HARDIDGE

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Grace Isobel Hardidge
Name: Grace Isobel Hardidge
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1931 <<<<<<< & 1936 <<<<<<
State: Victoria
District: Kooyong
Subdistrict: Camberwell
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Regent St., Burwood
with William Henry, --

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 17 Mar 2009 13:28

Jessie Nish b. 1899 ; d. 1982 ; m. 1920 Ernest Charles TOLLEY
--> Albert William b. abt 1921 ; d. 1942 Ballarat

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Ernest Charles Tolley
Name: Ernest Charles Tolley
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1924 <<<<<<<<<
State: Victoria
District: Melbourne
Subdistrict: Hotham
OCCUPATION .. -- Driver
ADDRESS .. 12 Collie St., Morth Melb.
with Jessie, h/d

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Jessie Tolley
Name: Jessie Tolley
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1931 <<<<<<< & 1936 <<<<<<
State: Victoria
District: Bourke
Subdistrict: Coburg
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. Greenwood St., W7.... ( same address as mother)

Julcoe

Julcoe Report 17 Mar 2009 13:37

Mary Ethel Nish b. 1902 ; d. 1982 as INGLIS

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Mary Ethel Nish
Name: Mary Ethel Nish
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1931 <<<<<<<<<<<
State: Victoria
District: Kooyong
Subdistrict: Kew
OCCUPATION .. Nurse
ADDRESS .. 283 Cotham Rd., Kew

Australian Electoral Rolls, 1901-1936 about Mary Ethel Inglis
Name: Mary Ethel Inglis
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1936 <<<<<<<<<<<
State: Victoria
District: Kooyong
Subdistrict: Kew
OCCUPATION .. h/d
ADDRESS .. 32 Highbury Grove, Kew
with Lindsay Ballantyne Anderson INGLIS, Med. Pract. ... (Doctor)

Kaye

Kaye Report 18 Mar 2009 00:21

Catherine and Julie,

I can't thank you both enough for the wonderful information you have provided to me. Thank you. I have a few days off work this week so will up date my tree and see what questions may arise from this. It takes me a while to get my head around things. I'm just amazed when I see helpers on this site seem 'to nutt out' things so very quickly. I don't have internet at home so will be online up to 5.00pm today (Aust) and back online again Monday.

Catherine, I will have to research more into Isabella's mother being Catherine Black and see if I can find something to confirm this. You are probably right that I haven't found the right birth for Isabella.

Julie, thank you for all the AER information, that is terrific information.

How easy is it to use Scotland People, I had joined Find My Past and I found my credits went in a flash just by not being being computer savvy on that particular site, is Scots People easy to use?

Catherine, do you know when Grace Sproat (Nish) died?

Even though William Snr occupation was noted as 'butcher' on son's marriage certificate but his occupation in the Scot Census in 1841 say 'Tailor' which one would you feel is more than likely correct as the occupations are worlds apart. Do you agree that we definately have the right family in Wigstown as it sure seems to be.

Thank you again.
Warm regards Kaye

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Mar 2009 08:39

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

I found the site really easy to use. You have to register to use but that doesn't cost anything.

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I'll have a look to see if I can narrow down a death for Grace!

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Mar 2009 08:46

The census records I found were the only ones that fit with father William and mother Grace.
Are they the correct ones or not? I would say yes.
If, as you say, mothers maiden name on Australian certs are shown and he states his mother as mn Sproat, then it certainly is the correct one.
Why did he state his father as butcher on his marriage cert.? Only he can answer that.

Have narrowed her death down:-

Surname: Nish
Forename: Grace
Other Surnames: Sproat
Year: 1868
Birth Year: 1803
County: Wigtown
District: Sorbie

edit:-
There is another Grace Nish that died about the same time that I came across whilst doing my search :-
Surname: Nish
Forename: Grace
Mothers maiden name: Sproat
Year: 1863
Birth Year: 1843
County: Wigtown
District: Sorbie

This one would seem to be the daughter of William and Grace and therfore your William's sister.

Carole

Carole Report 18 Mar 2009 08:51

hi kaye

glad to hear that mother was grace spro(a)t that means we are on the right track.

carole

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Mar 2009 09:39

1851 census shows:-
Mary Nish 48 - Half Sister - born: Sorbie, Wigtonshire
(Formerly House Servant )

Had a look on familysearch.org and found this which could be a clue to parents of William (father):-
MARY DAVIDSON NISH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 APR 1803 Sorbie, Wigtown, Scotland
Father: THOMAS NISH
Mother: ELISABETH GRAHAM

marriage for this couple:-
THOMAS NISH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 15 JUN 1802 Sorbie, Wigtown, Scotland
Spouse: ELISABETH GRAHAM

If Mary was William's half sister then that would mean that Thomas was their father (having the same surname) and Elisabeth would have been Thomas' second wife. So we now need to find the first.

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Mar 2009 09:52

Trying to tie up some loose ends!

1861 census shows:-
George Wilson 38 - Brother born: Penninghame, Wigtown
(Shepherd)
as Grace was Head of Household, then he should be her brother. As they didn't have the same surname could be they were half brother/sister. (Same mother).

Found this also on familysearch.org:-
GEORGE WILSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 OCT 1822 Penninghame, Wigtown, Scotland
Father: DAVID WILSON
Mother: JANET PARKER

marriage for this couple:-
DAVID WILSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 09 JAN 1820 Penninghame, Wigtown, Scotland
Spouse: JANET PARKER


found him in 1841 (to see age of father):-
Name: David Wilson
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigtownshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Penninghame
County: Wigtownshire
Address: Clachan Of Penningham
Occupation: Ag Lab
Parish Number: 895
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
David Wilson 45
Janet Wilson 45
George Wilson 18
David Wilson 4
Elisabeth Wilson 11
Janet Wilson 10
Margaret Wilson 5
John Neilson 17

so father born 1796 - Grace was born abt. 1803 so couldn't be David's daughter.
This one is a bit of a mystery.
Better keep him on file for future reference, till you know exactly how they are related.

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Mar 2009 10:02

Mary Nish (the half sister) in 1841:-

Name: Mary Nish
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Wigtownshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Sorbie
County: Wigtownshire
Address: Sorbie Village
Parish Number: 897
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Nish 35
Walter MacLean 7 (doesn't state the relationship)

on the same census page as William, Grace and family.

Walter's christening:-
WALTER LAURIE MCLEAN - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 OCT 1833 Sorbie, Wigtown, Scotland
Father: ALEXANDER MCLEAN
Mother: MARY NISH

so Walter was the illegitimate son of Mary.

Kaye

Kaye Report 23 Mar 2009 04:22

Hi Catherine,

You found some terrific information, especially regarding William (snr) b.1783 two marriages and his father Thomas also likely two marriages. Will have to see if I can find the first wife of Thomas. Do you know if there were alot of Nish families in Sorbie back in the late 1700's? If not, that would make my deductions a little safer.

Interesting about George Wilson (brother) it doesn't seem likely does it. But you just never know, always best to hang onto information.

Thank you for helping me with this research, this would have taken me weeks to pull it all together.

If you come up with anything else for this family, I would be very appreciative. I will keep on with it and maybe some hot matches might come of it.

Kind regards
Kaye