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Jamie

Jamie Report 23 Jun 2010 09:38

A bit of a shot in the dark but could someone with access look up Reuben Weston from Leicester on a passenger list to Australia somewhere between 1890 and 1892. His son, my Great Grand father was born in Melbourne in 1893. He may of been travelling with a man named George Moore.
Apparently he also travelled to the U.S via New York in the 1880s, though i/m even less optmistic of finding that journey
Thanks for any help possible...
Jim

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Jun 2010 09:43

Is this him returning to UK?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Reuben Weston
Name: Reuben Weston
Birth Date: abt 1856
Age: 36
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1892
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne, Hobart, Adelaide, Albany, Colombo, Port Said, Ismailiya, Naples, Gibraltar, Plymouth
Ship Name: Orotava
Search Ship Database: View the 'Orotava' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: No owner or agent listed
Official Number: 96348



Andy

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 09:45

Hi Jim,

I don't have a year of birth to work with, but what about this?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Reuben Weston
Name: Reuben Weston
Birth Date: abt 1856
Age: 36
Port of Departure: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1892
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne, Hobart, Adelaide, Albany, Colombo, Port Said, Ismailiya, Naples, Gibraltar, Plymouth
Ship Name: Orotava
Search Ship Database: View the 'Orotava' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: No owner or agent listed
Official Number: 96348

There is a Thomas Moore listed next to him?



Dee x

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jun 2010 09:48

And this....do you DOB or parents names?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Ruben Weston
Name: Ruben Weston
Birth Date: abt 1858
Age: 37
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 31 May 1895
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: New York
Search Ship Database: View the 'New York' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Official Number: 130616


Also with him; Mrs Weston - Ernest - Albert

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Jamie

Jamie Report 23 Jun 2010 09:48

Dont think so Andy, he was born in 1863 and arrived back c.
1897

Heres more info if it may help...

Rueben Weston, B. Leicester Nov 1863
Parents Ephraim and Elizabeth Weston
Wife Julia

As his son *Albert* was born in Melbourne in 1893 and his next Daughter in 1898 just after their return I know they were in Australia during this period

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jun 2010 09:53

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Renben Weston
Name: Renben Weston
Arrival Date: 19 Mar 1906
Birth Year: abt 1866
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceĀ­/Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Umbria
Search Ship Database: Search the Umbria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Residence: Leicester


He's with a George Chamberlain and they are both Shoemakers


Yep..this is your man

1881 England Census
about Reuben Weston
Name: Reuben Weston
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Ephraim
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Belgrave
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 48 Martin St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Shoe Hand <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar
Sub-registration district: Rothley
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ephraim Weston 44
Elizabeth Weston 39
Ephraim Weston 19
Reuben Weston 17
William Weston 13
Alice Weston 10
Kate Weston 6


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 10:00

Jim,

I don't see the family in 1891....... could they have all gone over as a family??


Dee x

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jun 2010 10:03

1901 England Census
about Reuben Weston
Name: Reuben Weston
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Julia
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Mark
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:<<<Shoe

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: North West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 45
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Reuben Weston 39
Julia Weston 40
Ernest Weston 16 <<<<<<<<<<
Maud Weston 13
Albert Weston 7 <<<<<<<<<<
Nellie Weston 5
Elsie Weston 2

And heres the children from that first Ships record I posted

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Jamie

Jamie Report 23 Jun 2010 10:05

The New York journey is confusing me somewhat now...but you/ve hit the nail on the head Ginny as Ernest was the oldest son and Albert was the one born in Austrailia...just trying to find a way to piece it together

Gee

Gee Report 23 Jun 2010 10:09

Take not much notice of ages on records, they were a guess most times!

He must have been overseas in 1891 as hes not on the UK census

I think the US 1891 was destroyed?

It will all come together in the end. All the those records I posted are your man and his family.

Jamie

Jamie Report 23 Jun 2010 10:13

Dee...the word in the family before everyone died was that Reuben worked his passage down on a ship and sent for the family afterwards...which at that time was his wife and oldest son Ernest. doesnt seem the oldest daughter went

Jamie

Jamie Report 23 Jun 2010 10:19

Ginny, it would seem the trip to the U.S came after Austraila...not impossible. Thanks ever so much btw.
Unfortunately my family seems to have travelled a lot. hehe..
Can i be awful and ask you to check one more for me please? Ruebens sister Kate Weston left England never to return around 1915 to Canada. I believe she left her husband but had the children with her...3 children were William, Eva and Hilda.
Kate of course having the same parents as Rueben

Jamie

Jamie Report 23 Jun 2010 10:37

Your all Stars by the way...It really was a shot in the dark, i didnt expect so much help. Thank you all very very much

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 13:33

Hi Jim,

here's some info;

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Kate Wass
Name: Kate Wass
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Birth Place: Leicester, England
Age: 47
Date of Arrival: Apr 1923
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Leicester, England
Ship Name: Montcalm


Husband already in Canada, John Henry Wass, his address 518 Lincoln Road, walkerville (?) Ontario.

Her birth place Leicester

Realtive in UK; Mrs Weston (Mother) 9 School Cottages, Martin Street. Leics.


EDIT>>>>>>>> Added these;

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Eva Wass
Name: Eva Wass
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1908
Birth Place: Leicester, England
Age: 15
Date of Arrival: Apr 1923
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Leicester, England
Ship Name: Montcalm

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Sydney Wass
Name: Sydney Wass
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1912
Birth Place: Leicester, England
Age: 11
Date of Arrival: Apr 1923
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Leicester, England
Ship Name: Montcalm

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about John Henry Wass
Name: John Henry Wass
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1907
Birth Place: Leicester, England
Age: 16
Date of Arrival: Apr 1923
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Leicester, England
Ship Name: Montcalm


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 13:34

In Canada from 1923 - 1930 Address Walkerville Ontario.... birth place Leics.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Kate Wass
Name: Kate Wass
Gender: Female
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 17 Oct 1930
Vessel: Duchess of Atholl
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of Atholl' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14770

Travelling alone.

Destination; Daughter, Mrs Fred Atkins 674 Turner Rd, Walkerville, Ont.

Relative in UK; Mother Mrs Elizabeth Weston.......same address School Cottages



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 13:40

Looks like the family in 1901;

1901 England Census
about Kate Wass
Name: Kate Wass
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John H
Gender: Female
Where born: St Marys, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 253
Household Members: Name Age
John H Wass 28
Kate Wass 25
Sydney J G Wass 4
William H Wass 1
Florence H Wass 3
Annie Wass 62
Alice B Wass 1 month
Dorothy M West 6


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 13:41

Looks like Florence is HILDA;

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Florence H Wass
Name: Florence H Wass
Gender: Female
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1898
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 29 Mar 1915
Vessel: Scandinavian
Search Ship Database: View the 'Scandinavian' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St.John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-4830



Travelling with; William Henry aged 16 and Charles aged 10

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 13:57

Did Florence Hilda marry Fred Atkins...... the daughter from the immagration record on Kate??

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about Frederick Atkins
Name: Frederick Atkins
Residence: Ancaster, Ontario, Canada
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1895
Birth Location: London, England
Relative: Florence Atkins
Relationship: Wife
Regiment Number: 2497432



Dated June 15th 1917.

Fred was born in London and his occupation was Engineer... the same as John H Wass and his son William H Wass.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 14:07

This looks like the 2nd child Sydney they had, the image is so poor I can't make it out;

Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
about Sydney Wass
Name: Sydney Wass
Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1952
Birth Date: 28 Sep ??08
Birthplace: Leicester
Birth Country: England
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English

Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan
Arrival Contact: Sister Elisabeth Mackenzie

Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_113



Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 23 Jun 2010 14:09

His death record from Social security;

Social Security Death Index
about Sydney Wass
Name: Sydney Wass
SSN: 546-48-0393
Last Residence: 92027 Escondido, San Diego, California, United States of America
Born: 28 Sep 1908
Died: 9 Oct 1996
State (Year) SSN issued: California



Dee x