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Does anyone have a Samuel and Ellen Rogers in their family tree which living in Bath in 1911, they were both about 48 years old and according to the census still had four children living at home whose names were Maud,Percy,Ellen and Beatrice ?

Census for ref only:-

1911 census transcription details for: 1 Farley View Claverton Down Bath
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN14688 RG78PN891 RD316 SD2 ED7 SN16

Reg. District: Bath Sub District: Bathwick
Parish: Claverton Enum. District: 7
Address: 1 Farley View Claverton Down Bath
County: Somersetshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
ROGERS, Samuel Head Married M 48 1863 Nil Pensioner Melksham Wilts
ROGERS, Ellen Wife Married
28 years F 48 1863 Melksham Wilts
ROGERS, Maud Daughter Single F 20 1891 Teacher Of Music Aldershot Hants
ROGERS, Percy Son Single M 18 1893 Nil Sick Aldershot Hants
ROGERS, Ellen Daughter F 12 1899 Curragh Ireland
ROGERS, Beatrice Daughter F 5 1906 Portsmouth Hants


1901 England Census
about Ellen Alix Rogers
Name: Ellen Alix Rogers
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Melksham, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Portsmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Portsmouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:

Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Portsmouth
Sub-registration district: Portsmouth and Mid Southsea
ED, institution, or vessel: Colewort Barracks Portsmouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen Alix Rogers 37
Mabel Winifred Rogers 19
Agnes Rogers 13
Maud Lavinia Rogers 10
Florence May Rogers 8
Percy Victor Rogers 7
Ernest Edward Rogers 5
Ellen Alice Rogers 2


1891 England Census
about Sam Rogers
Name: Sam Rogers
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Gender: Male
Where born: Melksham, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Aldershot
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Soldier
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: Army Service Corps
Neighbors: View others on page


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sam Rogers
Name: Sam Rogers
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Melksham
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 106

Believe that this could be "Maud".

Aldershot is in the Farnham district.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Lavinia Maud Rogers
Name: Lavinia Maud Rogers
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Farnham
County: Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex
Volume: 2a
Page: 105

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Lavinia M Rogers
Name: Lavinia M Rogers
Spouse Surname: Maynard
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1933
Registration district: Bath
Registration county (inferred): Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1339
Find Spouse: Charles Maynard

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Maud L Maynard
Name: Maud L Maynard
Death Registration Month/Year: 1966
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 9

Births Dec 1905
ROGERS Beatrice Elizabeth Portsmouth 2b 386

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Percy Victor Rogers
Name: Percy Victor Rogers
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Farnham
County: Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex
Volume: 2a
Page: 99


possible marriage & death?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Percy V Rogers
Name: Percy V Rogers
Spouse Surname: Johns
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration county (inferred): Glamorgan
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 720
Florence A Johns

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Percy Victor Rogers
Name: Percy Victor Rogers
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1893
Death Registration Month/Year: 1970
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 605

Daughter Ellen born Ireland 1898/9?


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Ellen A Rogers
Name: Ellen A Rogers
Spouse Surname: Chorley
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration district: Bath
Registration county (inferred): Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 936
Find Spouse: Harold Chorley

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ellen Alice Chorley
Name: Ellen Alice Chorley
Birth Date: 22 Sep 1898
Death Registration Month/Year: 1978
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 0030

What does anyone make of this...........same couple???
Samuel & Ellen were both born Melksham Wiltshire according to census'. Also, some of the children born Aldershot (Farnham district). Did they just keep renewing their vows??

Marriages Dec 1882
Jordan Ellen Melksham 5a 245
Rogers Samuel Melksham 5a 245

Marriages Sep 1886
Jordan Ellen Alice Farnham 2a 185
Rogers Samuel Farnham 2a 185


Marriages Dec 1891
Jordan Ellen Alice Farnham 2a 214
ROGERS Samuel Farnham 2a 214



Together in 1881....well same census!

1881 England Census
about Ellen Jordan
Name: Ellen Jordan
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1863
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Melksham, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitley
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address: Littleworth Lane Cottage
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Melksham
Sub-registration district: Melksham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rebecca Neat 68 head, Widow
Ellen Jordan 18 visitor, Dressmaker
Samuel Rogers 18 lodger, Lab Stone Mine


The childrens births for reference:

Births Jun 1883
ROGERS Mabel Winifred Melksham 5a 122

Births Sep 1887
ROGERS Agnes Farnham 2a 108

Births Sep 1890
Rogers Lavinia Maud Farnham 2a 105

Births Jun 1892
Rogers Florence May Farnham 2a 110

Births Jun 1893
Rogers Percy Victor Farnham 2a 99

Births Sep 1895
Rogers Ernest Edward Portsea 2b 482


Was daughter Agnes a twin?

Births Sep 1887
ROGERS Herbert Farnham 2a 108

Deaths Dec 1887
Rogers Herbert 0 Farnham 2a 67

You may have all this information already but I do hope that you will come back to your thread and confirm this or tell us what it is you are looking for. As suggested, look in "search trees" as I am sure that there are a number of people with the same people in their tree as yourself.

I posed a question on a thread of my own regarding some info that I had put on your thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1246273

and thought that you may like to know what the replies were as people had kindly delved even further.

MB

It would be very nice to have some feedback from you, Kenneth!

Hi Anne-Marie and Moody Blue,
Thanks for the helpful information, as you have guessed I have some of the information you provided that is up to 1911. The purpose of my search is my grandmother Mabel Winifred Rogers who married my grandfather Ernest Gay in Bath in 1910 little or nothing is known of her as she left the family home when my father was a young child and the last sighting was possibily the late forties and early fifties. Myself and my cousins know nothing of the Rogers family so I was trying to establish a link.
Thanks again for your help and if you have any ideas they will always be appreciated.
Regards
Ken

Hi,
Since I last posted this thread concerning the Rogers family I sent off for a birth certificate for Agnes Rogers in the hope that I would find his service number and confirm the corp he was in,(Commissariat and Transport Corps) to become the Army service corp, unfortunately no number,however when I looked at the address where Agnes was born between her date of birth and the address there was written "y.20P.In would anybody have an idea as to what this is.
Regards
Ken

Hi Kenneth,

I do not know what that would stand for but I think that on a Twins birth the the time of birth is also given.......could this by chance be anything like a time? Maybe ??. 20pm

Do you have his service records? They are on Ancestry.

on one of the pages it says:

no 5140 Sergt Major Rogers 28thCoy A.S.Corps was admitted to hospital 01 October 1903....Ulcer Leg (result of Enteric Fever contracted in S Africa)

He was stationed at Bulford Camp, Salisbury.

He was discharged 05 Jan 1907 (medically unfit)

Hi Moody Blue
Thanks for your input, I will make some enquires concerning twins and birth times, with reference to Samuel Rogers service records I don't have them. First though I was thinking of sending for their marriage certificate as I saw on your earlier thread that there is possibly more than one also on my grandparents marrige certificate in 1910 at Bath his occupation was listed as sergeant major and the 1911 census as pensioner. Once again thanks for your help.

Hi Kenneth.

Have just noticed that on the 1911 census it states that they had been married 28 years.......so this would coincide with the "1st" marriage. I wonder why there are two other marriages though?

This is the start of his service records:-

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Sam Rogers
Name: Sam Rogers
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Age at enlistment: 19
Birth Parish: Melksham
Birth County: Wiltshire
Document Year: 1884
Regimental Number: 5140
Regiment Name: Commissariat & Transport Corps
Number of Images: 13

I can send the images to you if you should wish. If you want them, email me privately with your email address.

Hi Moody Blue,
Thanks, and I will take you up on your kind offer.If I find out about the marriages I will let you know.
Regards
Ken

Hi Kenneth,

Do you have the birth certificate for Mabel Winifred Rogers? If so, can you tell us the actual date of birth, please?

Hi Moody Blue,
Yes I do and the date is 11th May 1883 at Whitley Melksham.
Regards Ken

Do you think that this may be your Mabel Winifred....I found this one earlier and that is why I asked for her date of birth:-


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Mabel Winifred Bennett
Name: Mabel Winifred Bennett
Birth Date: 11 May 1883
Death Registration Month/Year: 1981
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 23
Page: 0353

It may be worth purchasing this certificate!!

Hi Moody Blue,
This certainly has strong possibilities and I do think it worth while purchasing a certificate.
Thanks very much for your help
Regards
Ken