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last chance to find shuttleworths of oswaldtwistle

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Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2009 15:33

I am trying to solve this problem . I have my ancestors living in the 1841 census at Redwalls Cross edge with al of their children . On the 1851 cendus they are at cross edge but is wife in 1841 is betty in 1851 it is isabel . There is a marriage for richard and isabel on the IGi and all the children are down as isabels yet on the 1841 they are bettys . I cant find a marriage fir richard and betty what does anyone think Richard shuttleworth b abt 1801 lancashire

Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2009 16:12

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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:12

BETTY SHUTTLEWORTH Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 09 FEB 1826 Church, Lancashire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RICHARD SHUTTLEWORTH Family
Mother: ISABEL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
Well this is extracted so it should be right.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:15

This is all their children

1. MARY SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUL 1823 Church, Lancashire, England

2. JOHN SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 NOV 1845 Church, Lancashire, England

3. BETTY SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 FEB 1826 Church, Lancashire, England

4. ROBERT SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 NOV 1818 Church, Lancashire, England

5. ALICE SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 FEB 1822 Church, Lancashire, England

6. RICHARD SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 MAY 1833 Church, Lancashire, England

7. HANNAH SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 SEP 1830 Church, Lancashire, England

8. ABRAM SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 FEB 1840 Church, Lancashire, England

9. JAMES SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 FEB 1820 Church, Lancashire, England

10. THOMAS SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 FEB 1828 Church, Lancashire, England

Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2009 16:17

Thanks for that I have this but do you think isabel is his 2nd wife and betty his first as on the 1841 census betty is down as the mother

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:20

RICHARD SHUTTLEWORTH Pedigree
Male Family

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Marriages:
Spouse: ISABEL RILEY Family
Marriage: 15 SEP 1817 Church, Lancashire, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:23

I think Isobel was his wife and he may have called her Betty then he had a daughter they called Betty so he then called his wife Isabel?????? If his first child was born in 1820 then the marriage would fit. don't forget they could marry very young in those days.

Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2009 16:25

thanks for that both of you I suppose that could be right as it all seems to fit with the children it is too many for coincidence Thanks again

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:35

Whats the ref for the 1841 census please?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 17 Feb 2009 16:35

sample of baptisms taken from the (free) site lan-opc.org.uk

Baptism: 1 Nov 1818 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
Robert Shuttleworth - Son of Richard Shuttleworth & Isabella
Abode: Broadfield
Occupation: Weaver

Baptism: 27 Jul 1823 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
Mary Shuttleworth - Daughter of Richard Shuttleworth & Isabel
Abode: Broadfield
Occupation: Weaver

Baptism: 17 Feb 1828 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
Thomas Shuttleworth - Son of Richard Shuttleworth & Isabel
Abode: Old Fields
Occupation: weaver

Baptism: 26 May 1833 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
Richard Shuttleworth - Son of Richard Shuttleworth & Isabella
Abode: Red Walls
Occupation: weaver


Potty

Potty Report 17 Feb 2009 16:35

From Lancashirebmd:

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1839
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SHUTTLEWORTH Abraham Oswaldtwistle Preston RILEY

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:42

Got it now.

I think you can definately say that Richard married Isabel and that the person who wrote out the census misheard his wifes name. He may have said Bella.

Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2009 16:43

Thank you for all this info it is greatly appreciated i can only presume that i am on the right track and isabel was their mum but goodness knows who is Betty

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:44

Yep

ROBERT SHUTTLEWORTH Pedigree
Male

Christening: 01 NOV 1818 Church, Lancashire, England

Parents:
Father: RICHARD SHUTTLEWORTH Family
Mother: ISABELLA


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:47

Christine Richard and Betty on the 1841 are both 40 years old.

1841 England Census
about Rich Shuttleworth
Name: Rich Shuttleworth
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Whalley
Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Oswaldtwistle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Rich Shuttleworth 40
Betty Shuttleworth 40
Bobert Shuttleworth 20
James Shuttleworth 20
Alice Shuttleworth 19
Mary Shuttleworth 17
Betty Shuttleworth 15
Anna Shuttleworth 10
Elizabeth Shuttleworth 5
Abraham Shuttleworth 1


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 17 Feb 2009 16:51

1. MARY SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 JUL 1823 Church, Lancashire, England

2. JOHN SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 09 NOV 1845 Church, Lancashire, England

3. BETTY SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 FEB 1826 Church, Lancashire, England

4. ROBERT SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 NOV 1818 Church, Lancashire, England

5. ALICE SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 FEB 1822 Church, Lancashire, England

6. RICHARD SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 MAY 1833 Church, Lancashire, England

7. HANNAH SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 SEP 1830 Church, Lancashire, England

8. ABRAM SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 FEB 1840 Church, Lancashire, England

9. JAMES SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 FEB 1820 Church, Lancashire, England

10. THOMAS SHUTTLEWORTH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 FEB 1828 Church, Lancashire, England

Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2009 16:51

thank you all of you i think you might be right Mel and it as been transcribed wrong and he surely cant have been marrid before

Potty

Potty Report 17 Feb 2009 16:52

Ages were rounded down to the nearest five on the 1841 - 1851 gives both their ages as 52

Susan

Susan Report 17 Feb 2009 16:55

thank you guys have to go now husband home shortly to no food i appreciate all your help and efforts Susan

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 17 Feb 2009 16:56

as the mother of the fisrt child in 1818 was isabel and the one in 1840 was mmn Riley which from marriage was Isabel Riley I think it is safe to assume Betty was incorrect (unless she was sister/sister-in-law - there were also children born to a Robert & Betty Shuttleworth)