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Sarah Ann Skett (1844)

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Ruth

Ruth Report 4 Jun 2010 00:24

I'm looking for information about Sarah Ann Skett (1844-1887). Her father was John Skett and his wife was Sarah Ann McFadden. She married Thomas Smallwood in Birmingham (1868). Sarah had 3 children: Ann, Ada and Charles Smallwood. Sarah died in Glasgow in 1887. I'm looking for any other information about Sarah or the Skett family.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jun 2010 01:14

It's difficult for people to help with requests for "any information". You know her parents', husband's and children's names. Can you explain what information it is you're looking for? The Skett family from her father John Skett and back?


1861?

Name: Sarah A Skett
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Servant
Where born: Kings Norton, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish: Aston

1851?

Name: Sarah Skett
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Edgbaston
Thomas Burton 43
Harriott Burton 37
Thomas Burton 3 Mo
Sarah Skett 1
Elizabeth Powel 63

Births Sep 1844
Skett Sarah Ann Kings Norton 18 380


Would this be father John in 1851?

Name: John Skett
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Where born: Northfield, Worcestershire, England
- married, occupation sawyer

Civil parish: Northfield
County/Island: Worcestershire
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Edgbaston

John Skett 44
John Skett 20
James Kell 15
Emma Kell 13
Lucy Kell 8
Pennelope Kell 1


The children's surnames are obviously all Skett on the image; if this is your family, it could be useful to make a correction at Ancestry in case another family member searches for one of the children (and include an anonymous permanent online email address so you can be contacted anytime in future).

Births Dec 1849
SKETT Penelope Kgs Norton 18 400
SKETT Penelope Kgs Norton 18 386

Odd, and the only two by that name in the GRO index -- one marriedin Birmingham in 1867, one married in Aston in 1870.

Ruth

Ruth Report 4 Jun 2010 19:06

Thanks for the information you found on Sarah Skett.

I'm looking for information on Sarah and her family (Skett). The details I have are from her marriage certificate. I also have her death certificate showing when and were she died but I know nothing about her family background.

I have searched for her birth certificate and found several Sarah A Sketts born around the same time but the details of parents don't match with my Sarah. I have also searched for John Skett and again found several but none of them seem to be who I'm looking for. I would like to find out if Sarah had a sister Elizabeth, but finding it difficult because I am unable to trace the family.

There's a family myth that someone was adopted, I am trying to prove it wasn't Sarah.

Mike *

Mike * Report 4 Jun 2010 19:38

Have you ruled this one out ?

Births Sep 1844

Skett Sarah Ann - Kings Norton 18 380

Mike *

Mike * Report 4 Jun 2010 19:40


Could this be the sister Elizabeth ?

Births Dec 1852


Skett Elizabeth - Kings Norton 6c 381

Mary

Mary Report 4 Jun 2010 19:45

Ann Maria Skett Kings Norton born 1848 died 1879.

Maryb

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jun 2010 20:28

I'm still not really clear. All you know about Sarah is the info from her (English) marriage certificate and (Scottish) death certificate? -- i.e. her parents' names, and then of course her husband and children.

What I was suggesting was that you get the birth certificate for one of the children in the 1851 household headed by a John. If the parents matched the names you have, that would give you the identities of her siblings and a little info about John, from the census record. I'd hoped that Penelope Skett might be unique -- certainly wasn't expecting to find two of them born in the same quarter in the same place!!

How about the Lucy in the 1851 household?

Births Jun 1842
Skett Lucy Kings Norton 18 418

If the parents on the certificate were John Skett and Sarah McFadden, you'd have made a huge leap.

The Sarah I posted in 1851 seems likely to have belonged to that family, but to have been being cared for elsewhere. The info in that census record may be kind of suspect, given that she wasn't actually a family member. I wonder whether she might have been informally adopted *out*, rather than into the family?

Why are you wanting to find out whether she had a sister Elizabeth? -- i.e. is there some information to suggest she did have? Why not tell us?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jun 2010 20:44

This is the 1851 household, in 1861.

Name: John Skett
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Northfield, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Northfield
County/Island: Worcestershire

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Edgbaston

John Skett 54
Susanna Skett 46
Emma Skett 23
Penelope Skett 11
Christiana Skett 10
Joseph Skett 7

... so it looks like they're not the ones. Unless your Sarah's husband/children didn't know her mother's name when she died -- which is entirely possible.

Again, Lucy's birth certificate would provide an answer one way or the other.

Ruth

Ruth Report 5 Jun 2010 13:28

Sarah Smallwood (Skett) (1844-1887) had a daughter Ada Catherine (born 1872 in Aston Birmingham) who doesn't show on 1881 English Census. But a KATE Smallwood was living in Cirencester (aged 8) with an aunt Elizabeth Fisher. The Scottish Census 1991 shows a KATE Smallwood living and working in Glasgow for a wealthy family, and Sarah Smallwood, daughter Ann (born in Birmingham 1869) and son Charles (born Glasgow 1874) are also living in Glasgow. I'm trying to prove that KATE and Ada Catherine were the same person. Sarah Smallwood died at 61 Cathcart Street Glasgow (1887) and Ada Catherine gave that address as her residence on her marriage certificate in 1893.

Thomas Smallwood (father of Ada) did not have a sister Elizabeth so I am trying to find Sarah Skett's family and find out if she had a sister Elizabeth. That would confirm that KATE Smallwood is likely to be my ggrandmother Ada Catherine.

The Skett mystery is that on Sarah Skett death certificate her father is named as John (jobbing gardner) but her marriage certificate shows William. Perhaps he was William John Skett, I'm going to investigate that option further. Both certificates show mother as Sarah McFadden.

Thanks for all your information and for taking the time to help.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 14:40

CHARLES HARRY SMALLWOOD Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 05 AUG 1874 Tradeston, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS SMALLWOOD Family
Mother: SARAH ANN SCOTT

This is the only Charles Smallwood that came up born in Scotland Lanarkshire at that time,1865-1875Different Mother from Stated ?

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jun 2010 15:18

Hi Ruth what do you think about this.
Kate Smallwood A/M/J 1872 Birmingham 6d 78
1881 with aunt Elizabeth Fisher 1840 Stroud Gloucestershire .
Joseph Fisher 1839 Wiltshire.
Joseph fisher married elizabeth Ford J/F/M 1860 6a 441 in Cirencester.

1861 Joseph Fisher and elizabeth with Elizabeths mum Harriett Ford born 1805 Stroud.

Back to Kate,1891 with her sister Edith M Smallwood born 1868.
1901 Kate with mum Anne Wilton born 1839 Stroud.

Edith M Smallwood with parents William Smallwood 1835 and Anne 1836 Stroud.

Anne Smallwood married Thomas Wilton in 1886 in Cirenchester.

Conclusion is that I don't think Kate is the same person as Ada Catherine Smallwood born 1872 in Aston Birmingham.

Maryb

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 15:20

If Sarah died in Glasgow there could be a poor relief record held at the Mitchell Library,Glasgow.

Ellen

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 15:33

1861
Name: Sarah J Burton
[Sarah J Scott]
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John W
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
John W Scott 43
Sarah A Scott 37
Amelia Scott 15
Betsey Scott 13
Joseph S Scott 7
Ann Scott 4
Mary B Scott 6 Mo
Elizabeth Todd 38
Sarah J Burton 18
John Holder 24
Robert Tebbutt 19
Edward Hilton 17
John Hulme 17


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1851 Census he is a Grocer?

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 16:03

Sarah Ann Skett 1868 Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
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Thomas Smallwood 1868 Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

This should be Sarah A Scott,Married under her single name ,although had married a Burton as in the 1851 Census she is staying with the Burtons.Or transcript is wrong and she was Sarah Ann Scott with no previous marriage
.
Ellen

Mary

Mary Report 5 Jun 2010 16:26

Ruth says she was Sarah Ann Skett ,which looks as though it was changed to Scott on birth record of Charles 1874 in Glasgow.

I don't think the Sarah J Burton nee Scott is the correct one.

Maryb

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 16:42

Not finding a marriage for a John W Scott and a Sarah Ann McFadden?either in Scotland or England.Spelling could be out.

Ellen

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 16:54

Is the marrige date given on Charles Harry Smallwoods birth in Glasgow the same as the one in 1868?

Ellen

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 16:57

Did you send for this and was it Right or Wrong?
Name: Sarah Ann Skett
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Kings Norton (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 380 (click to see others on page)


ellieathome

ellieathome Report 5 Jun 2010 17:11

1851
Name: Sarah Skett
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Edgbaston
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Edgbaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Burton 43
Harriott Burton 37
Thomas Burton 3 Mo
Sarah Skett 1
Elizabeth Powel 63


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Mary

Mary Report 5 Jun 2010 17:39

Was the parents of thomas SmallwoodHenry 1807 and catherine?
If so Thomas was with dad Henry in 1881 when Sarah Ann (nee Skett) was in Glasgow.
On 1881 record Thomas is a Brassfounder like on 1871 when he is with Ann (Sarah Ann)

Death for a Thomas Smallwood born @ 1845 died 1890 in Birmingham J/F/M 6d 123.

Maryb