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I am trying to find out more about Edward H Agar, born c1857.
Have found him in 1891 census - Leicester St Margarets.
Edward H Agar 44
Gertrude Agar 4
Mary J Agar 34
Emma Kilby 6 (neice)
Mary Penington 22

I am also tracing the Kilby family from Leicester - can anyone find Edward in any earlier census please?

Many thanks

1891?

Name: Edward H Agar
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward H Agar 44
Gertrude Agar 4
Mary J Agar 34
Emma Kilby 6
Mary Penington 22

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2528; Folio 41; Page 34

Yep that looks like him - thanks Keith - can you find him in 1881? & where was he living & what was his occupation please?
Gill

1881

Name: Edward H. Agar
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary J.S.
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: 27 Shenton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coach Trimmer

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward H. Agar 36
Gertrude Agar 1
Mary J.S. Agar 27
Eliza Carrington 22

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3162; Folio: 4; Page: 8

Our messages crossed - you were ahead of me.!

1871?

Name: Edward H Agar
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret East
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Nelson Place?

Occupation: Coach trimmer

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Edward H Agar 26
Eliza Agar 61
Sarah Agar 29
Thomas Agar 63 Retired Policeman.

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3269; Folio: 74; Page: 17;

Eliza is shown on the image as wife to Thomas, ie the mother of Edward.

Do we know who he was in relation to Emma Kilby? I know he was her uncle - but on whos side?

Thomas Agar, (his father) born c1808 - can we find his wifes name? THeir marriage details (where)? - any other family details?

I am still trying to find out where Emma Kilby comes into the family?

Thanks again
Gill

Give me a chance Gillian!!!

Sorry Keith....got a bit carried away!

1861 Edward is a coach trimmer, but the wife is shown as Sarah.

Name: Edward Agar
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Belgrave, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Nelson Place

Occupation: Coach trimmer

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Agar 16
Eliza Agar 19
Sarah Agar 51
Thomas Agar 53
William Agar 13

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2286; Folio: 12; Page: 18

1851.

Name: Edward R Agar
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: St Margaret, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Nelson Street.

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Agar 19
Edward R Agar 6
Eliza Agar 9
Emma S Agar 11
Sarah Agar 41
Thomas Agar 43
Thomas Agar 16
William Agar 3

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2088; Folio: 393; Page: 16

Hmmm....

1861 Thomas & Sarah - (William, Elizabeth, Edward)
1871 Thomas & Elizabeth, (Edward, Sarah)

Is it definately the same family - or was Thomas married twice?

Got to go out now ..but will catch up soon. Thanks for your help Keith - I have moved forward a bit more.
ind regards
Gill

1841

Name: Thomas Agar
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Margaret With Bishops Fee
Hundred: Leicester Borough
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Agar 9
Emma Agar 2
Sarah Agar 32
Thomas Agar 33
Thomas Agar 6

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 604; Book: 7; Civil Parish: St Margaret With Bishops Fee; County: Leicestershire; Enumeration District: 13; Folio: 10; Page: 12; Line: 9

So looke like Thomas and Sarah married before registration, have to look on the IGI for possible marriages there.

Looks like we have all the probable children, so now to look for marriages for them.

Looks to me as if the ages of Sarah and Elizabeth have been recorded incorrectly in 1871 and the status to head.

the marriage of Edward and Mary J, was hoping she was a Kilby.

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
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Agar Edward Henry Leicester 7a 584
GOODMAN Jane Leicester 7a 584
Orton Mary Jane Leicester 7a 584
Richardson Joseph Leicester 7a 584

Possible Mary J Orton in 1871?

Name: Mary J Orton
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: South Kilworth, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: North Kilworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: North Kilworth
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lutterworth
Sub-registration district: Lutterworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
Clara Asher 14
Eliza Ball 45
George Ball 47
Lucy A Kendal 9
Mary J Orton 14

Head of the family is George.

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3222; Folio: 23; Page: 14

Could this be Emma in 1901?

Name: Emma G Kilby
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A
Gender: Female
Where born: Lester, Leicester

Civil Parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Saviour
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: Beal or Real Street.

Occupation: Shoe machinist.

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 248
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth A Kilby 38 Widow b Seagrove?
Emma G Kilby 16
Herbert F Kilby 14
Hettie R Kilby 21
Vincent W Kilby 18
Emma Sherwin 37
Ethel L Steele 1
George E Steele 36
Harold Steele 8

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2996; Folio: 147; Page: 43

Unfortunately I cannot find the same family in 1891, but this looks like them in 1881. I am trying to ascertain who she married and when, but cannot find a marriage at the moment.

Name: Elizabeth A. Kilby
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John I.
Gender: Female
Where born: Seagrave, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address: 19 Shenton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur C. Kilby
Elizabeth A. Kilby 23
Hetty K. Kilby 1
John I. Kilby 23 Professor of Music, born Leicestershire

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3162; Folio: 4; Page: 8


EDIT disregard this, it cannot be Elizabeth Agar, the ages dont match!!! Doh!!

I cannot find any Agar/Kilby marriages on FreeBMD.