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1871/1891 census London please

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Susan

Susan Report 7 Mar 2008 10:38

Hello Angela, Vera and Val.
Many thanks for your help. Angela the spelling on the name Orvice as Awece in 1891 has the family living at the same address as 1881. Must have been the enumerator spelling it as he saw it. Thanks also for looking for them in 1871. Never mind I'm thrilled with the info that I have. Vera. Sophia died 1891 (after census night) and George died 1894. So that is them on the 1891. Val thank you for your Budwell family members.
The replies and questions came in thick and thin last night that it all got confusing for a while.

Best wishes. SUE.

Julie

Julie Report 6 Mar 2008 20:58

Er i wasn't talking to you, so whats your problem

You are get crossed with me..ROTFLMAO

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 6 Mar 2008 20:47

Sue

I had no luck with 1871, despite much looking!

Best wishes.

Angela

Susan

Susan Report 6 Mar 2008 20:41

Thanks everyone. Just going to digest all this and get back to you.

Julie you have made your point as have I. You have also told me in a personal reply. Please now just move on. I'm getting cross with you.

SUE.

Julie

Julie Report 6 Mar 2008 12:30

Yes i like a challenge too, but when someone don't want to offer as much info as possable it makes it hard...i did offer to look at the marriage of George & Sophia so i could go back some more, but when it like trying to get blood from a stone you feel you can be bothered

Vera

Vera Report 6 Mar 2008 12:17

Trouble is it gets to you when you can't find them and you know they are there...even when they are not yours!!!!!

Regards Vera

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 6 Mar 2008 12:14

Still looking for them in 1871!

Should be doing my own tree really :-))

Angela

Vera

Vera Report 6 Mar 2008 12:11

Hi Angela,

What a great find.....so they are not dead...

Looked on the image....it is Orvice.....and Minnie dressmaker Good One !!!!

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 6 Mar 2008 12:05

Hi
Just trying something else...

1851
Sophia Budwell
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Louas
Gender: Female
Where born: Attleborough, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Attleborough
Town: Attleborough
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wayland
Sub-registration district: Attleborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Budwell 31
Elizabeth Budwell 7
Louas Budwell 35
Sophia Budwell 11
William Budwell 35
William Pratt 30


1861
Sophia Buddell
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Attleborough, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Bury St Edmunds St Mary
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Bury St Edmunds
Sub-registration district: Bury St Edmunds
ED, institution, or vessel: 4e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 187
Household Members: Name Age
Sophia Buddell 21
Edward S Burlingham 4
Elizabeth H Burlingham 39
Ellen R Burlingham 6
Florence E Burlingham 2
George Burlingham 43
George A Burlingham 11
John E Burlingham 12
Lucy E Burlingham 13
Mary A Loneday 20


1871

Might have nothing to do with Sophia....but thught I would show t to you...also not born in Norfolk..
Minnie Buddell
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Paddington, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Thomas Buddell 8 months
Mary Ann Buddell 26
Minnie Buddell 2
Thomas Buddell 21


Regards Vera

ValT

ValT Report 6 Mar 2008 12:04

Have spent ages saying the names in my best Norfolk accent but Awece.....
wtg Angela,

I found this

1851 census

Sophia Budwell
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Louas ( think this should be Louise)
Sister's Name: Elizabeth aged 7

I think Elizabeth married Samuel Clark Herbert in 1869 as Buddle.


Gender: Female
Where born: Attleborough, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Attleborough
Town: Attleborough
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England


Val

Vera

Vera Report 6 Mar 2008 11:59

Hi Susan,
Just got back. When was the deaths of George and Sophia please?
regards vera

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 6 Mar 2008 11:53

Susan

I've found them in 1891:

George Awece
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Paddington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Awece 51
Mannie Awece 24
Sophia Awece 59


Angela


Address looks like 9 Amberley Mews.
Sophia's birthplace Attleborough, Minnie's looks like Bowthorpe?
Sophia's age is actually 50, but a line has been drawn through it.

Susan

Susan Report 6 Mar 2008 11:32

Thank you Val.
A great help.
Thanks also Minnie and Vera.

Regards. SUE.



ValT

ValT Report 6 Mar 2008 11:25

Hi

Marriages Mar 1862
Hanton Elizabeth Wayland 4b 452
Orvice George Wayland 4b 452
Spurling John Wayland 4b 452


On FreeBMD the 2nd woman is missing so I checked for any Sophias in 1862 and came up with this.

Marriages Mar 1862
Budwell Sophia Wayland 4b 45[28]


Val

Susan

Susan Report 6 Mar 2008 10:53

Thanks. Certainly looks like the deaths for George and Sophia. Dates tie in.

Susan

Susan Report 6 Mar 2008 10:44

I know who George married. It was Sophia ?? They are Minnies parents on the 1881 census. She is missing on the BMD for that quarter. That is why I thought there might be a clue in 1871 or 1891 possibly a brother or parent for Sophia. So I may find out her maiden name. This is how I have found other family members before by living or visiting family members.

Susan

Susan Report 6 Mar 2008 10:30

30/31 when they married.

Susan

Susan Report 6 Mar 2008 10:26

Minnie is on the 1901 census. Shortly after marrying Joseph Churchill he died. She remarried in 1895 to Alfred Homewood.

Susan

Susan Report 6 Mar 2008 10:22

hI minnie.
I know where she was born. Parents George Orvice and Sophia ?? They were both born in Attenborough as well. They all moved to London shortly after 1867.
Minnie married Joseph Henry Churchill in Paddington 1893.

SUE.

Penny

Penny Report 6 Mar 2008 10:19

OK, she married in Paddington
mr Sherlock or Mr Churchill