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I am not descended from Robert Bousfield and Ann Wiseman. I have been researching who I thought (wrongly) was their family line because I am clutching at any straw that might connect my Bousfield/Bowsfield family to other Bousfield trees that are on Ancestry or which might give me a clue as to the family origin of my 4x great grandfather Walter Bousfield. I am descended from his son John Bousfield (b 1775), Robert's brother. My 3x g grandfather John Bousfield married Dorothy Willoughby.
Thankyou so much for your efforts at helping me to unravel and correct my family tree!
Kathy

As John is still with his parents in 1841...........!

1841 census

Person: BOUSFIELD, Robt Address: Redworth, Heighington, Redworth

BOUSFIELD, Robt M 50 1791 Durham VIEW
BOUSFIELD, Ann F 56 1785 Durham VIEW
BOUSFIELD, John M 25 1816 Durham VIEW
BOUSFIELD, George M 23 1818 Durham VIEW
BOUSFIELD, Mary F 20 1821 Durham

The males are all Ag Labs

Is it proven that your line is from Robert and Ann(Wiseman)?

How do you connect with JOHN?

Do you have proof that he survived, and married?

At last I have received the marriage certificate for John Bousfield and Mary Ann Robson (April 7th 1839) and it does indeed confirm that John's father was William Bousfield - a servant at an inn. This means that my tree both on GR and Ancestry is incorrect and this family are not the descendants of Robert Bousfield. I will make alterations a.s.a.p. but would value any help in tracing John the son of Robert Bousfield (abt 1785) and Ann Wiseman (abt 1790).
Kathy

Thanks for this evidence of Robert's marriage to Ann Wiseman. I am still waiting for the cert to prove whether John who married Mary Ann Robson was the son of Robert or William Bousfield.

Year:1812
Supplied Surname:BOUSFIELD
Surname:BOUSFIELD
Full First name:Robert
Supplied First Name:Rob
Spouse Surname:WISEMAN
Spouse Full First name:Anne
Spouse First Name:An
Place:BARNARD CASTLE
County:Durham
Record source:Boyd's Marriage Index 1538-1840
Data provider:Society of Genealogists

Kathy, not sure if you know that the familysearch site has images of Bishop's Transcripts of Parish Records of lots of Northumberland and Durham churches. Use this link and then scroll down to England, Durham Diocese Bishops Transcripts.

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list?page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND

I looked for the marriage of John and Ann Wiseman on there - but the page is missing!

I am totally overwhelmed and very appreciative of all the help and I have been given. I will do as advised and contact Michael by clicking on his name (didn't know I could, so thank you) but I felt I had to add my thanks and apologies here as well. Apologies because - yes - you are quite right; I have confused Mary Ann Robson (John's Bousfield's wife) with Ann Wiseman (Robert Bousfield's wife).

I have been researching the Bousfield/Bowsfield family for 10 years and have hit a brick wall with Walter Bousfield b. bat 1750, my 4 x great grandfather. He married Ann Harrison in Aycliffe in 1772 and they had at least 5 children: Edward, John, Margaret, Ann and Robert. Robert was born in Preston and baptised on 31 July 1785. He married Ann Wiseman on 29 June 1812. They had 3 children - George, Mary Ann and John. This is where the plot thickens. I believe that this is the John who married Mary Ann Robson in 1839. Andrew Plant on Ancestry has also being doing a great deal of research into the Bousfield family and he has on his tree that the John Bousfield who married Mary Ann Robson was the son of William Bousfield b. 1778 and Frances Hutchinson. If Andrew is right, then this leaves me wondering who John Bousfield son of Robert Bousfield and Ann Wiseman married. I plan to send for the marriage certificate today, so should soon know the answer.
Again - thanks and best regards to all
Kathy

The 1871 census for John and Septimus is on page one of this thread.

John's father was Robert.

1871 Census
6 Records found



Piece: RG10/4862 Place: Northallerton -North Riding of Yorkshire Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Chapelry South Cowtn Ecclesiastical Parish: Chapelry South Cowtn
Folio: 62 Page: 1 Schedule: 5
Address: Arden Arms Inn

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BOUSFIELD John Head M M 59 Innkeeper Co. Durham - Staindrop
BOUSFIELD Mary Wife M F 51 - Yorkshire - North Cowton
Page: 62/2 BOUSFIELD William Son U M 21 Blacksmith Yorkshire - South Cowton
BOUSFIELD Jane Dau U F 19 Dressmaker Yorkshire - South Cowton
BOUSFIELD Hannah Dau U F 15 - Yorkshire - South Cowton
BOUSFIELD Elizabeth Dau - F 11 Scholar Yorkshire - South Cowton

County Northumberland
Place Alnwick
Church St Michael Bt
RegisterNumber 421
MarriageDate 09 Sep 1864
GroomForename John
GroomSurname BOUSFIELD
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation Inn Keeper
GroomAbode St Andrew Parish Newcastle on Tyne
BrideForename Annie
BrideSurname DAVIS
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Widow
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode Alnwick
GroomFatherForename William
GroomFatherSurname BOUSFIELD
GroomFatherOccupation Labourer
BrideFatherForename Patrick
BrideFatherSurname MURPHY
BrideFatherOccupation Custom House Officer
WitnessOneForename Joseph P
WitnessOneSurname NOLAN
WitnessTwoForename Edward
WitnessTwoSurname ENGLISH
Notes Lic., witness 3: Mary NOLAN
FileNumber 28630

There is a public tree on Ancestry for this family. These are the siblings for Septimus and he is the 7th son (the 9th child the other two being girls who died before his birth:

John William Bousfield1840
Mary Frances Bousfield1843– 1847
Matilda Ann Bousfield1845 – 1847
Edward Bousfield1846
Thomas Bousfield1848 – 1927
Adam Bousfield1850 – 1933
Robert Bousfield1853 – 1901
Mary Ann Bousfield1854
James Bousfield1856 – 1856

For once this tree does seem to be well researched and documented. This is what it says about John and Mary Ann's marriage:

1839 7 Apr
Age: 23 Darlington St Cuthbert
he is a bachelor servant at an Inn, of Sunderland son of William servant at an inn, she is a spinster of Bank Top daughtre of John a labourer, witnessed by Robetr and Jane Robson

Bonsfield, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Septimus Bonsfield
Age (Original): 21
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1860
Birthplace: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Relationship to Head of Household:
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: First Battalion Grenadier Guards Private
Address: Victoria Barracks
Event Place: New Windsor, Berkshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341322
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1325 / 127
Page Number: 15

This link will take you to an image of Septimus's baptism; living in Percy St, father, John, is an Inn keeper:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12123-130991-17?cc=1309819&wc=M6KG-GP8:13617901,27617101,28300001

Your estimate of the birth year for Septimus is not accurate

This agrees with 1871 posted earlier

1861 census


Person: BOURFIELD, Septimus Address: 56, Prudhoe Street, St Andrew, Newcastle Upon Tyne

BOURFIELD, John Head Married M 46 1815 Publican
Harlington, Durham VIEW
BOURFIELD, Mary A Wife Married F 40 1821
Darlington, Durham VIEW
BOURFIELD, Edward Son M 15 1846 Metal Moulder
Newcastle, Northumberland VIEW
BOURFIELD, Septimus Son M 2 1859
Newcastle, Northumberland VIEW
CHAMBERS, Agnes Servant Unmarried F 24 1837 House Servant
Scotland

Why do you think John's wife died in 1842?

Do you have a copy of the cert?

You referred to her as Ann when mentioning her 'death', but you know that her name was Mary Ann, from the marriage record

I think you are confusing Robert's wife with John's..............

Indeed, Potty.....lol!

For INFO............

1871 census

Person: BOUSFIELD, Septimus Address: Park Place, St Andrew, Newcastle On Tyne

BOUSFIELD, John Head M 56 1815 Codurham *MARRIED*
BOUSFIELD, Septimus Son M 12 1859 Northumberland

Adam is at the same address, but described as 'lodger' in the main household

Snap, Richocet!

Kathleen, as you say this is a very old thread and Michael may not still be following it. If you click on his name your can send him a message and if he still has the same email address, GR will advise him of it.

If you need help yourself, why not start a new thread? Click on Add Topic.

It is not likely that Michael will see your message

If you wish to discuss your query with him, send him a message through this site, by clicking on his name.

If you want other members to help you, it would be better to post your own thread.

Click on add topic, and make sure you include all dates and places.

To find out if John married again, look for a record at freebmd