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trying to find family on census and mystery marria

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G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 21:37

HI all

I have a bit of a mystery going, i have a william maslin marrying a elizabeth plank and them having a number of children however another GR member has all the children but a different wife she has an Eliza Redding where as i have Elizabeth Plank. Another Gr member has looked at marriages in london areas for William Maslin to an Eliza Redding and found nothing, william was born in 1842, all his children were born in rotherine, and london area's.
Is it poss for someone to look at the marriage index to see if a marriage between a william maslin and an elizabeth redding. The first child was born 1862 in bermondsey (jane). They were found on the 1881 cenus and wife is named as Eliza.
Although the Gr member with the different wife has a child born 1860 called elizabeth but i do not have this entry but all the rest match.
Any help would be fantastic
thank you

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!)

Jill 2011 (aka Warrior Princess of Cilla!) Report 21 Mar 2008 21:42

Have you looked on FreeBMD?

This is the website : http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 21:51

yeah i cant seem to find one but i dont know if its me?

Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:00

If you bought Janes birth certificate you would have her mothers maiden name for certain. Where did you get their possible marriage from? Have you got a birth cert of a child already? Do you or the other member have any certificates to back up either marriage? It may be he married twice.

The only Elizabeth Plank coming up in Surrey is this one, neither grooms are your man:

Laurance Louisa Denne Croydon 2a 366 Scan available - click to view
Lawrance Louisa Denne Croydon 2a 366 Scan available - click to view
Plank Elizabeth Croydon 2a 366 Scan available - click to view
Searle William Thomas Croydon 2a 366 Scan available - click to view
Simpson John Henry Croydon 2a 366

Between 1855-1864 2 other Elizabeth Planks come up in East London, but again no groom with the right name.

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:02

i think i do have one of the others childrens birth cert and thats where i got the info from but they are in loft so thats first job tomorrow, however as the other gr member has this different wife/mum i couldnt understand it i have looked on freeBMD and no marriage comes up between a william maslin and a eliza redding at all. I have emailed a few members that also share this connection and am awaiting replies i also emailed the person with eliza in the tree asking if she has the marriage cert or seen the index but no reply as yet

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:06

the elizabeth plank i have married william maslin in devizes wiltshire this is def on the index, i checked this again this eve.
I will check the birth cert tomorrow and go from there as i cannot see any eliza redding marrying a william maslin

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:07

maslin surname originates in wiltshire - so i am told anyway lol

Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:07

Oh sorry, I assumed you meant they had always lived in Bermondsey as you didnt mention Devon, oops, Wilts, before. Where were William and Elizabeth born then?

Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:07

Marriages Dec 1862 (>99%)
Hale Caroline Devizes 5a 223 Scan available - click to view
Maslin William Devizes 5a 223 Scan available - click to view
Maynard Thomas Devizes 5a 223 Scan available - click to view
Plank Elizabeth Devizes 5a 223

Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:11

Just looking on ancestry and there are an awful lot of William Maslins.

I take it this is the right couple in 1891, both born in the area - are you sure the Devon marriage is the right one?
This guys age is out for your chap. Have we got two sets of people on the go here? You really need that birth cert to ensure you have the right people. Ditto the other person on GR
me: William Maslin
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, London, England

Civil Parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Katharines
Town: Rotherhithe
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Maslin 53
Eliza Maslin 12
Hannah Maslin 17
William Maslin 56

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Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:19

This is the 1881 you mention, and again, its a different birth year to what you have stated for your guy:


Name: William Maslin
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 66 Goodson Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Dock Laborer Harb

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

David Bodding 27
Charles Maslin 1
David Maslin 5
Eliza Maslin 43
Eliza Maslin 3
George Maslin 17
Hannah Maslin 8
Henry Maslin 17
Jane Maslin 19
Susan Maslin 13
William Maslin 46

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G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:19

hi again this is now what i have many doubts about i had stopped researching the maslins as i had alot of info at the time now im unsure of it, i know i have some info certs in the loft, that looks like them on the census they had children as follows
Jane 1862
Henry 1864
George 1864
Susan 1869
Hannah 1874
David 1876
Eliza 1878
Charles 1880
although the other GR member has another child that i dont have and thats
Elizabeth 1860

Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:20

Same family 1871

Name: Wm Maslin
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Maslin 34
Elizabeth Maslin 11
George Maslin 7
Henry Maslin 7
Jane Maslin 9
John Maslin 5
Susan Maslin 2
Wm Maslin 37

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G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:22

ok i think best bet is to get the certs in the a.m and see what they say.
Il repost on here the findings tomorrow and go from there, i cannot imagine me putting the wrong info unless the info i got was incorrect in the first place. what a nightmare lol

Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:23

1861: (Note baby Elizabeth)

Name: William Maslin
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth

Civil Parish: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 351
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Maslin 23
Elizabeth Maslin 3 Mo
William Maslin 26

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G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:23

i also dont think i have john in my records either.... this is rather odd.

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:24

But there is still no marriage that i can find for a william maslin and eliza

Heather

Heather Report 21 Mar 2008 22:24

1851 with mum and dad. Birth still shown as 1835 ish - so where did you get the 1842 birth year from?

Name: William Maslin
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Leah
Gender: Male
Where born: Newington, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Newington
Sub-registration district: Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members:
Name Age
John Maslin 45
Leah Maslin 49
William Maslin 17

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G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 22:26

i have got no idea it must be on the paperwork i have, i will have to dig it out as it looks like i have it wrong the papers were sent from another gr member whos connected through williams daughter susan same as me.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Mar 2008 22:32

Looks like the one that Heather posted married Caroline Hale and not Elizabeth Plank. This is from BVRI:

MASLIN, William Age: 21 Marriage
Wife: Caroline HALE Age: 20
Marriage Date: 13 Oct 1862 Recorded in: Urchfont, Wiltshire, England
Husband's Father: Charles MASLIN
Wife's Father: James HALE
Source: FHL Film 1279347 Dates: 1840 - 1906