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Thanks Joan. That is her as she had an elder sister called Caroline and I have the name Gitted in my notes although I have just checked the BMD and he is down as Giltro.

I wonder where the other children went after the parents deaths.

What are the other names and I'll check the 1861 census

I think this is the family in 1851?

1851 England Census
about Charles Abbott
Name: Charles Abbott
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Abbots
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 224
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Abbott 1
Caroline Abbott 14
Charles Abbott 43
Charles C Abbott 7
Charlotte Abbott 10
Emily Abbott 37
Isabel Abbott 4

The other children were
Charlotte b 1841Middlesex
Charles c 1844 Middlesex
Isobel c 1847 Middlesex

Caroline was married, Ida you found and the youngest Alice was buried in 1853 although I can't find her death registered!

I will check the marriage records for Charlotte as she would have been 20.

This may Isabel living with her aunt Jane Abbott

1861 England Census
about Isabel Abbott
Name: Isabel Abbott
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 377
Household Members: Name Age
Isabel Abbott 14
Jane Abbott 42
John Seadon 50

Jane is listed as unmarried (sister to Charles).

Possible record in 1861 for Charles Abbott

1861 England Census
about Charles Abbott
Name: Charles Abbott
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 236
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Abbott 19

Joan - that is great and has given me a little bit more info to investigate.

I wonder who John Seadon was ??

I am now getitng confused looking at all the names so I am off to do some work.

I will now put this into order before deciding what to do next.

Thank you for all your help, it is very much appreciated.

Jacky :-)

Jacky,

I have to sign off now--PM if you need anything else.

Joan

oooo you found more!

John Seadon was listed as a "boarder"

Marriages Sep 1854

Abbott Caroline Kensington 1a 169
Giltro John Charles Kensington 1a 169